sandy whitelinger
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Numerous, previous postings from him, but in this case the mocking of a well established Biblical position that man is born into sin.
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Life Begins at Conception
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So, then, a fetus has no special value over and above that of the sperm cell that fertilized it?
Father Heathen
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How can something be "sinful" without a will or mind? What "sins" can an embryo commit, exactly?
Why is it the sperm cell that's infused with a "soul'? Does this mean the testicles are haunted?
From what I can see (and forgive me if I am wrong) angellous_evangellous has Christian as his religion, but I just saw the (Full of Sin - Whoot!) post as having some fun. And being religious doesn't mean we can't have a laugh, does it?
McBell
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linwood
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It may be be well established but you`d be surprised how many Christians don`t believe in the doctrine of original sin in such a manner.
sandy whitelinger
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Why would you say that?
sandy whitelinger
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Certainly not...no levity allowed...serious...ummmmm...I can't keep a straight face. I'm lying out my as(conection terminated).
sandy whitelinger
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I suppose it could be an idiom but I just read it the way it was wrote.
If a sperm cell has a human soul and a fertilized egg has a human soul, then what's the net change from one to the other?
sandy whitelinger
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Complete DNA.
That's not a net change either; there's no more DNA in the fertilized egg than there was in the egg and sperm separately beforehand.
sandy whitelinger
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That's not what you asked.
I asked what the net change was. Anything that was there beforehand and is still there afterward is not a net change.
jtartar
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Darkness,
There are several scriptures that indicate that God knows that life begins at conception, Ps 139:13-16.
Consider how God spoke about Jeremiah when he was in his mothers belly, Jere 1:4,5.
Proof positive iis found at Ex 21:22,23. We are toold that if two men were fighting and they caused the death of a baby by premature birth, the man responsilbe should be put to death. The Mosaic Law required a life for a life.
Think about Jesus, who was transferred to the womb of Mary, by God. This is a very good indication that life begins in the womb for mankind. Of course Jesus was alive in heaven billions of years before he came to earth, Luke 1:32-35, Col 1:15, Rev 3:14, Prov 8:22-31.
McBell
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Really?
Let us see...
These verses have absolutely nothing to do with conception.
The speak of God knowing you whilst in the womb.
This says nothing about how life begins at conception.
it is merely God claiming to have known you before conception.
No it isn't.
Not even close.
There is absolutely nothing here to support your blatantly false claim that the Bible supports life begins at conception.
In fact, I can use this verse to to show the Bible supports that life began a long long time ago and is a continuous ongoing process.
Yet is says ABSOLUTELY nothing about when that life began...
the verses listed here in this particular quote bubble, though they do tend to support the claims in that particular quote bubble, have absolutely nothing to say about life beginning at conception.
It seems to me that you have to engage in some rather interesting gymnastics to get these verses you presented to even imply that life begins at conception, let alone what is needed to say that they do make such a claim.
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