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Louisiana becomes first state to require that Ten Commandments be displayed in public classrooms

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
There are state rights and federal rights. As I have said before, if the freedom of religion even meant freedom of religion, they would have had to change every State Constitution. People tend to ignore that truth.
No, it's you who ignore the fact people like Jefferson demanded it be kept out. No promoting the church, no state sponsored religion, no national day of prayer, no promoting Bible reading, absolutely none of it was to be had.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The last part of that sentence contradicts the first.
You'd not be so sanguine about it if Islam's
scripture were to be singularly posted in schools.
Is there historical value of Islam in the creation of the United States law? Hellooooo!
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Roe v Wade is not in the Constitution.

That is correct… it is a STATE right.
Roe v Wade in no way answers the request.

When the Constitution does not address a particular item it is a STATE right.

Freedom of Religion did NOT affect State Constitutions.

Where in the Constitution does it state that State Rights supersede the Constitution?

Are you purposefully changing the context of what Is said? If the Constitution said “Freedom FROM Religion” - State Constitutions would have had to be changed.

You can not present a direct answer for this direct question because it does not exist.
Thus the reason for your dancing.

No… you are dancing around what I said. Why?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
the only historic value of Christianity in the creation of the United States is that the Founding Fathers did NOT want the united States to be a Christian Nation.
Nope :) Actually, what all of this sounds like is that you don’t want it to be a Christian nation
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There are state rights and federal rights. As I have said before, if the freedom of religion even meant freedom of religion, they would have had to change every State Constitution. People tend to ignore that truth.
You're giving us opinions & artfully selected facts.
This isn't the TRUTH.
We don't ignore your "truth". We rail against Christianity
infusing federal, state, & city governments. But because
Christians are the 600# gorilla in government, they succeed
in keeping their faith as semi-official.
Sometimes they dismiss it as de minimis, eg, their motto
("In God we trust) oath on money replacing the original
secular mottos ("We are one" & "Mind your business").
Do you know that history?
Another tool is to claim that the name of their god, ie, God,
represents all gods. Of course, we see thru that charade.
It's not Allah, Lackshmi, or Krom. Nor is it secular to us godless
heathens, those whom you seek to impose your fairy tales
upon.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Is there historical value of Islam in the creation of the United States law?
Ask Jefferson, who had a copy of the Koran.
Hellooooo!
That smacks of belief that your values & opinions are so
obviously true, that we must be fools to disagree with you.
I'm not the one who believes that public schools must
preach that snakes talk, & other utterly ludicrous fantasies.
You also aren't addressing that if Christianity is to be
taught as history, it should include your enslaving people,
committing pogroms, destroying cultures, etc, etc.
You seem to favor a whitewashed history....proselytizing
propaganda.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Doesn’t change the foundation of the US
The legal foundation of USA is the Constitution.
You just don't like the 1st & 14th Amendments
because they don't allow you to impose Christianity
upon the unwilling.
Christianity has a terrible deadly thieving history in
this country & abroad. It is a hideous morality to
embrace, let alone impose upon non-believers.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Ask Jefferson, who had a copy of the Koran.

That smacks of belief that your values & opinions are so
obviously true, that we must be fools to disagree with you.
I'm not the one who believes that public schools must
preach that snakes talk, & other utterly ludicrous fantasies.
You also aren't addressing that if Christianity is to be
taught as history, it should include your enslaving people,
committing pogroms, destroying cultures, etc, etc.
You seem to favor a whitewashed history....proselytizing
propaganda.
I’ve asked (figuratively speaking) to dozens of Presidents and State Constitutions.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Freedom of Religion did NOT affect State Constitutions.
It doesn’t matter what is in a state constitution. The US Constitution supersedes and overrides state constitutions. Always. That the US Constitution doesn’t address Roe v. Wade makes it a states’ rights issue. That the US Constitution doesn’t address a right to privacy makes it a states’ rights issue. If the US Constitution addressed Roe v. Wade, or guaranteed a right to privacy, then it would supersede and override the states. So, the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment supersedes and overrides all state constitutions. Ergo, to wit, therefore, abracadabra, hocus pocus the Louisiana bill will not stand. The SCOTUS will slap it down. Prove me wrong and change my mind. Hint: you can’t.
 
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