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"Love thy enemy": Some thoughts on Paris

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Useless2015

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outhouse said:
Again, do you embrace all cowardly acts of terrorism?

Do you embrace Islamic genocide? the western world is trying to stop?
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There is no such thing as Islamic genocide. I dislike IS, Taliban, Al Qaida, Boko Haram. Are you referring to these groups?
outhouse said:
So do all terrorist. Every single one of them states this.
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I guess, the natives in Europe under the Nazi regime who fought back were terrorists?
 
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Useless2015

Active Member
Saint Frankenstein said:
Lol, you're not doing a good job of changing my opinion. You're probably another freeloader living in Europe on the tax payer's dime, while hating Western society and wanting it to look like every other third world hellhole Muslims preside over.
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Change your opinion? Ha. You think to highly of yourself lol. I don't care about your opinion mate.
 
Shusha

Shusha

Member
Useless2015 said:
Show me where in the Quran it says its okay to kill innocent humans?
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Why did you choose to include the word "innocent"? See? THIS is same the ideology that ISIS uses. Of course, it doesn't say in the Qu'ran that it is permissible to kill innocent humans. It does, however, say it is not only permissible to kill complicit humans but requires the faithful to do so. And ISIS, in their own eyes, ARE the faithful. They are, in their own eyes, the only faithful. The only ones who are truly following their god's commands to the letter.

From an outsider's perspective, your ideology, as presented here, is the SAME as ISIS': it is not permissible to kill innocents, but it is permissible to kill those who are not innocent, especially in self-defense or in defense of Islam. Where you might differ is how you define "innocent".
 
Shusha

Shusha

Member
Useless2015 said:
Jerusalem belongs to Muslims. The only eyesore in the holy land are those eastern european gypsies who pretend they are Jewish.
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Ideology of ownership of land based on the "rights" of belonging to the "correct" faith. ISIS thinks the whole earth belongs to Muslims. Do you? Why or why not?
 
Unification

Unification

Well-Known Member
metis said:
It's obvious how they excuse it as this was also used to justify al-Queda's actions on 9-11. But just because they make up these excuses certainly doesn't mean we should accept them. Many people live in poverty the world over, but only a small fraction go out and try to kill civilians.

The problem I have with our actions is that those of us in the west often overreact, try to bomb peoples in submission, and that rarely works plus is morally indefensible to me. ISIS has publicly stated that it wants to draw us into the conflict that they believe they'll win in the long run, and all too often we are gullible enough to do just that. Our politicians are willing to do this because they don't want to appear to be weak.

As Gandhi said, "an eye for an eye will only result in the whole world going blind".
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Love how you put that.

It's psychological warfare. Pyschological luring and begging for retaliation. Hoodwinked into playing their game and by their rules. They are well aware they can't out-power.

Most of the world commonly perceives a strong human/nation by its external strength, control, and power. Unable to tame the beast and raging emotions. One whom reacts rather than thinks clearly and responds. When it's just that, that is their weakness.
 
Unification

Unification

Well-Known Member
Useless2015 said:
Jerusalem belongs to Muslims. The only eyesore in the holy land are those eastern european gypsies who pretend they are Jewish.
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There is no such thing as "holy land."

Jeru-Salem means "to find peace."
The Khazars found a book and later named a city.

The only eyesore in having a real whole mind is believing and killing others by thinking actual land is holy.

I will say this though,
Israel's continued illegal occupation of Palestine, sanctioned and maintained by the US, is one of the most serious obstructions to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East and the rest of the world.
 
Unification

Unification

Well-Known Member
outhouse said:
Wrong, they are primitive and use fear as a tool. That is what these cowardly terrorist are all about.
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Not wrong, but I agree that fear tactics are also used. Sure, their inner beasts are raging but they are also very intelligent and psychologically manipulative.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Unification said:
also very intelligent
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You mean the most illiterate group on the planet are intelligent, while refusing reason and logic in favor of tribal mythology?


Ya good luck proving animals are intelligent.

I would agree not to under estimate them, as a lack of intellect is very dangerous.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Unification said:
Sure, Bin Laden was very intelligent albeit "primitive." The most master-minded criminals and sick-minded humans are very intelligent.
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An intelligent person is not afraid, is not greedy. Greed and fear go together - that's why heaven and hell go together: hell is fear, heaven is greed.
 
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