Love

[Meow Mix]

Hey, where did ya'll get that picture of the world's ugliest cat? God, is that a kitten's face or a pig's ***-inine buttocks? Yech!!! I've seen cuter hairballs in my dryer vent. I've seen more adorable pusses on a--

Okay, I guess that'll be enough right there.

I'M JUST KIDDING . . . before someone shoots me. So, the cat is cute. But who in hell knitted that horrendous sweater? I've seen fancier fleece on slaughter-house goats. I've seen brighter wools on . . .

Rage building...

 

[Reptillian]

But who in hell knitted that horrendous sweater? I've seen fancier fleece on slaughter-house goats. I've seen brighter wools on . . .

That kitten thinks its Link from the Legend of Zelda!

 

[Eliot Wild]

Rage building...

Okay, okay . . . I swear its the cutest dang kitten I ever seen. It's so fuzzy and adorable it makes me long to grow a tail and cough up a hairball, which, given the amount of cigarettes I smoked last night and the amount of cheap vodka I consumed, I feel I could almost do just that.

I mean, come on, I just got off your ****zu list recently; I certainly don't want back on already.

But don't expect me to make soft, elated cooing noises. Sure, the cat might be cute, but I got to draw a line somewhere.

 

[Zadok]

Have you ever had a point in time where if you're with someone in a relationship and someone ELSE was made available to you at a point in time that seemed to embody everything that you love and cherish, where at any point in time that you weren't already taken you would be like "heck yes you are perfect, let's get to know one another?"

I had one of those moments tonight. To be clear, I'm a huge fan of redheads, and I like a very particular body structure. As everyone here knows I have a certain set of standards when it comes to beliefs and attitudes.

My girlfriend stayed home tonight while I went to a show for a band called Portugal The Man (never heard of 'em til tonight, was there to see some friends from out of town). I met a girl that was like the perfect incarnation of the immaculate smartypants, sassy redhead of my dreams who enjoyed even the deepest underground things that I enjoy. It could be said that we were MADE for each other (clearly, she's also a lesbian).

But you know what? Beyond the surface feelings of "wow everything about this person resonates with me," I felt absolutely no personal attraction. Yeah, she was hot... breathtakingly hot. But I felt no desire at all to sit closer to her or (most tellingly) to try to sit further away from her. The fact that I wasn't interested in her even though my intellect told me that I should be and that I wasn't AFRAID to be interested in her (because I knew I wasn't) told me a lot about how much I really, truly love my girlfriend.

To folks that think homosexuality is a choice and etc.: how can you explain that away if homosexual love is somehow unnatural? How can it be that someone can love another person of the same sex so much that they would take a bullet for their lover, they wouldn't even be interested in someone they had aforehand thought might be their perfect match?

I thought to respond to your post. Not as an argument or to create ire – just state my belief and experience. I believe love is learned and developed. I will admit that as a man being married to a woman has been the most difficult thing I have ever done. However, having gone through many difficulties together for almost 40 years and raised 5 children I have learned to appreciate and love a person that I still cannot understand. Not only are we opposite sex we do not like the same movies, music, vacation spots or many other things. When we met I was a nerdy engineering student – she was a cheerleader. I love survival camping – she thinks staying is a hotel is camping. She is fashion and I can’t even match my sox half the time. And worse of all, she is taller than me.

My point is that if love seems to be everything you all want for yourself – why should anyone be impressed with that or think it is some kind of a great or even above average acomplishment?

Zadok

 

[Midnight Pete]

Oh, I know the answer for myself (it's because I love Alicia).

The post is more for the people who have opinions that homosexual love isn't "really" love, like it's somehow lesser than love between heterosexuals. I've heard people say things like homosexuals don't have "true love" and etc.

This post is for them, it's an example of how they're wrong.

I'm not one of those people who doubts or belittles homosexual love, FWIW. Let me ask you, Meow Mix, can you not use logic to solve the predicament you are in? Or do love and logic go together like oil and water?

I don't think you're really a robot in disguise, after all.

 

[blackout]

Who knows? Maybe you and Alicia are also Poly.
Maybe it's something you hadn't really considered
or discussed together.
(after all, it tends to be even more taboo than homosexuality)

Why not invite the Red Head over and find out for sure....

:flirt:

 

[Meow Mix]

I thought to respond to your post. Not as an argument or to create ire – just state my belief and experience. I believe love is learned and developed. I will admit that as a man being married to a woman has been the most difficult thing I have ever done. However, having gone through many difficulties together for almost 40 years and raised 5 children I have learned to appreciate and love a person that I still cannot understand. Not only are we opposite sex we do not like the same movies, music, vacation spots or many other things. When we met I was a nerdy engineering student – she was a cheerleader. I love survival camping – she thinks staying is a hotel is camping. She is fashion and I can’t even match my sox half the time. And worse of all, she is taller than me.

My point is that if love seems to be everything you all want for yourself – why should anyone be impressed with that or think it is some kind of a great or even above average acomplishment?

Zadok

Glad to hear you've found someone really awesome for you

I get what you're saying, but keep in mind that my girlfriend is quite different from me too. Different music tastes and all that stuff you already mentioned.

I was just very reaffirmed on my passion for Alicia when I met this girl who fulfilled practically my whole checklist of the "perfect woman" that I've had in mind for a long time and wasn't even tempted beyond agreeing that she was hot.

 

[Meow Mix]

I'm not one of those people who doubts or belittles homosexual love, FWIW. Let me ask you, Meow Mix, can you not use logic to solve the predicament you are in? Or do love and logic go together like oil and water?

I don't think you're really a robot in disguise, after all.

Logic doesn't really apply to affairs of love, I agree

I mean! Error... does not compute!

 

[Meow Mix]

Who knows? Maybe you and Alicia are also Poly.
Maybe it's something you hadn't really considered
or discussed together.
(after all, it tends to be even more taboo than homosexuality)

Why not invite the Red Head over and find out for sure....

:flirt:

lol, I've entertained the idea of a threesome before but not polyamory. I have a lot of love to give but ALL of it goes to Alicia. The third girl in any threesome I'd have wouldn't be emotionally involved... and I don't think Alicia'd dig it anyway. I don't care that much, and probably given the opportunity I'd say "nah" and just love on Alicia (alone) anyway

 

[waitasec]

Can I just ask why you would want an explanation if you actually want to be with the person you are with?
Is it because you want to move on to someone else?
Or is it because you don’t really want to be gay anymore?

have you ever been in-love?

 

[waitasec]

good for you meow mix
you're one of the lucky ones

 

[.lava]

To folks that think homosexuality is a choice and etc.: how can you explain that away if homosexual love is somehow unnatural? How can it be that someone can love another person of the same sex so much that they would take a bullet for their lover, they wouldn't even be interested in someone they had aforehand thought might be their perfect match?

i don't wish to discuss about homosexuality but i would like to say you make no sense to me with these words. what's homosexual love? do you have to be lover with a same sex person to love her enough to die for her? do you really think sexuality must be involved to love someone that much? well, i think not. btw IMO a real lover would not even see another person, let alone thinking she might be the perfect match. please excuse me for saying this if it is needed. i like your sharing and everything but this last part is little funny

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[Meow Mix]

i don't wish to discuss about homosexuality but i would like to say you make no sense to me with these words. what's homosexual love? do you have to be lover with a same sex person to love her enough to die for her? do you really think sexuality must be involved to love someone that much? well, i think not. btw IMO a real lover would not even see another person, let alone thinking she might be the perfect match. please excuse me for saying this if it is needed. i like your sharing and everything but this last part is little funny

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The point I'm making is that homosexuals experience true love in the same way as heterosexuals do. I agree that you don't have to be someone's lover to take a bullet for them, sure, but love for friends is a different kind of love than romantic love.

As for not even seeing another person, perhaps I'm mistaken but I find that hard to believe. Anyone, anywhere, will still look at other people and do things like rate their attractiveness and their qualities without really giving it any sincere thought. If they do give it sincere thought then yes, they should question whether or not they love the one they're with. I would strongly suspect that someone who said if attractive people were around them they wouldn't have thoughts like "Oh she's pretty" or "she likes the same things I do," etc. is lying to me or lying to themselves. I find that REALLY hard to believe.

 

[Gloone]

The point I'm making is that homosexuals experience true love in the same way as heterosexuals do. I agree that you don't have to be someone's lover to take a bullet for them, sure, but love for friends is a different kind of love than romantic love.

As for not even seeing another person, perhaps I'm mistaken but I find that hard to believe. Anyone, anywhere, will still look at other people and do things like rate their attractiveness and their qualities without really giving it any sincere thought. If they do give it sincere thought then yes, they should question whether or not they love the one they're with. I would strongly suspect that someone who said if attractive people were around them they wouldn't have thoughts like "Oh she's pretty" or "she likes the same things I do," etc. I find that REALLY hard to believe.

True Love? Sounds to me like you treat your girlfriend like crap. You go out, party, have all the fun while you make your girlfriend stay at home. Sounds like a crappy relationship.

 

[Meow Mix]

True Love? Sounds to me like you treat your girlfriend like crap. You go out, party, have all the fun while you make your girlfriend stay at home. Sounds like a crappy relationship.

lol because I totally said I "made" her stay at home

 

[Gloone]

lol because I totally said I "made" her stay at home

lol you butt

 

[Meow Mix]

lol you butt

Neener neener

 

[.lava]

The point I'm making is that homosexuals experience true love in the same way as heterosexuals do. I agree that you don't have to be someone's lover to take a bullet for them, sure, but love for friends is a different kind of love than romantic love.

love is love. there are different kinds of love only because there are different ways of expression. homosexual people might experience true love because they are human just like straight people. it has nothing to do with gender. though i don't exactly know what you mean by 'true love' because according to me dying for someone is one of the easiest thing to do comparing to survive for your love and keep on facing difficulties of life and even difficulties that comes from her habits, personality...etc. i've known very old couples who spend a life time together. thankfully divorce is a new trend in our society, so we all have known people who got married and spend decades together before they died one after another. they still loved each other as friends do. you know, after certain age people stop having sex. so with your partner if you ever reach that old age together, how would it be like if your love for her is different from your love for someone you don't have sexual relationship with? i do believe that sexuality creates a bond between couples. sometimes after a couple lost all the reasons to stay together that bond keeps them together for awhile. curious thing. love dies but sexuality makes people think they still love each other. obviously, love is not result of sexuality. that is why i don't get your point... "homosexual love"

As for not even seeing another person, perhaps I'm mistaken but I find that hard to believe. Anyone, anywhere, will still look at other people and do things like rate their attractiveness and their qualities without really giving it any sincere thought. If they do give it sincere thought then yes, they should question whether or not they love the one they're with. I would strongly suspect that someone who said if attractive people were around them they wouldn't have thoughts like "Oh she's pretty" or "she likes the same things I do," etc. is lying to me or lying to themselves. I find that REALLY hard to believe.

it should not be that hard, honey. everyone is pretty. everyone has one or two things to be liked or to fall for. we just need to look and pay attention. yes, some people don't really need our attention to be noticed physically because they fit the pattern of what we personally call 'beautiful' or 'attractive'. we, our society and our era creates that pattern in our minds IMO and it means nothing. because there is an unavoidable inner world behind that surface that we are at first blind to. so perhabs, simply noticing a redhead would not require anything extra but whatever thought that follows would. i thought you paid attention to that lady but why should you? not that i am questioning your loyality or anything, just talking

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[Walkntune]

love is love. there are different kinds of love only because there are different ways of expression. homosexual people might experience true love because they are human just like straight people. it has nothing to do with gender. though i don't exactly know what you mean by 'true love' because according to me dying for someone is one of the easiest thing to do comparing to survive for your love and keep on facing difficulties of life and even difficulties that comes from her habits, personality...etc. i've known very old couples who spend a life time together. thankfully divorce is a new trend in our society, so we all have known people who got married and spend decades together before they died one after another. they still loved each other as friends do. you know, after certain age people stop having sex. so with your partner if you ever reach that old age together, how would it be like if your love for her is different from your love for someone you don't have sexual relationship with? i do believe that sexuality creates a bond between couples. sometimes after a couple lost all the reasons to stay together that bond keeps them together for awhile. curious thing. love dies but sexuality makes people think they still love each other. obviously, love is not result of sexuality. that is why i don't get your point... "homosexual love"

You are right. Love is not based on sexuality.Sex is just one form of expression of love.It is just taught that way a lot here in the US.

 

[Meow Mix]

that is why i don't get your point... "homosexual love"

I don't disagree with you actually. Just understand that I was responding to a certain attitude that some people have: I've heard people say things like homosexuals don't really love their partners; that the love homosexual lovers have for each other is somehow a mockery or lesser than the love between heterosexual lovers. I was responding to that nonsense, and that's what I meant by "homosexual love:" to make the point that it's not at all different.