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Love
- Thread starter Meow Mix
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blackout
Violet.
lol, I've entertained the idea of a threesome before but not polyamory. I have a lot of love to give but ALL of it goes to Alicia. The third girl in any threesome I'd have wouldn't be emotionally involved... and I don't think Alicia'd dig it anyway. I don't care that much, and probably given the opportunity I'd say "nah" and just love on Alicia (alone) anyway
I'm glad you have someone that you love so much. :hug:
It's so important.
I don't know why people would imagine that GLBTQ(P) (for poly)
don't Love their partners every bit as deeply as Hetero/Mono.
Unfortunately people make alot of Self comparitive judgements
against people who are different then they are.
(in many areas)
It does nothing positive for anyone.
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Having witnessed some very shallow, disturbed relationships that people insist on naming "marriages" in the last ten or fifteen years, I too wonder why anyone would assume that less conventional relationships would lack in love.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
If "less than conventional" relationships lack anything it's legitimacy. The act of getting married does lend legitamcy to a relationship. Even if said legitimacy lasts for all of two months.
Zadok
Zadok
Glad to hear you've found someone really awesome for you
I get what you're saying, but keep in mind that my girlfriend is quite different from me too. Different music tastes and all that stuff you already mentioned.
I was just very reaffirmed on my passion for Alicia when I met this girl who fulfilled practically my whole checklist of the "perfect woman" that I've had in mind for a long time and wasn't even tempted beyond agreeing that she was hot.
I think your sort of have an understanding but perhaps what I was trying to communicate transcends passion between two people dedicated to each other. Over the years our love is not about the passion we have for each other as much as it is a commitment to something we believe is more important than what is circumscribed by us and our love for each other. Something worth more than taking a bullet (dying) for but something worth living for to gather for and changing or sacrificing personal passions, wants, desires and affections for. Something we cannot accomplish alone but only together.
We have 5 children and 12 grandchildren also involved in our journey of life. Our commitment is not our passion and commitment for each other but had taken root in the very essence of life and given purpose that reaches back in time to the first living creature on the planet and will continue as long (and perhaps beyond) while life exist on earth. Our love is part of the evolution of all that is and will ever be for how many eons to which evolution continues. It is a commitment beyond what we are or even think we can be. It is being together, committed to something as old as time and as forever as life. The wonder is that when we began we had no clue.
Zadok
That is simply not even remotely true, you know.
Legitimacy is perceived; I don't consider a slip of paper and a priest or court's stamp on it "legitimate" whatsoever.
Only love is legitimate to me. Loveless marriages are not what I consider legitimate relationships.
For instance, I know gay men who've married gay women for state, federal, and military benefits. Clearly the act of marriage doesn't mean a whole lot in itself. It's love that matters.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
From a legal perspective, it is. From a tax perspective, it is.
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
From a tax perspective many times it is better not to be married.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Then why is it such a big deal for gay couples to make it official? Why is there such a battle being fought over the LGBT's right to state-recognized marriage?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
How exactly does going through the motions of some ritual magically make a relationship more legitimate? Relationships are based on communication, trust, understanding, respect, love, etc. Theatrics or contracts do not instill or imbue any of those qualities.
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Wannabe Yogi
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I am so glad that you have found Love. It is an experience that most of us need sometime in our life time. It's a lot of fun. But in the long run those chemicals in the brain balance out and the feelings can go away and real life enters in to the mix of the relationship. This is also a blessing. (no external god needed for this blessing it is real natural) This gives us the opportunity to sublimate this love to a higher form. Were we love, trust, and support our partner and they do the same for us. This helps create an environment were our personal neurosis can start to be transcended and we become more human, better people, and if we choose to raise kids create an environment that is conducive to happy health children. Then to expand this love from our partners and children to all people. Our families become joys rather then duties and the whole world becomes our own.
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Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Marriage legitmizes a relationship in the eyes of the state and the church and/or the community. Just like a university degree legitimizes one's academic achievement and intellectual prowess in the eyes of potential employers.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Government approval makes someone's love for another person more real? Seriously? And the degree analogy is retarded and nonsensical.
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
It is a civil rights issue and not about money.
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
It just makes it harder to split up.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
No, it makes it more public.
Btw I thought the university degree analogy was pretty good.
To be fair I thought it was a decent analogy too, if imperfect. Then again what analogy IS perfect?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
A degree is to certify a certain level of education. A marriage certifies, what, that you paid the marriage license fee? Is a loveless marriage that's done for insurance, or a green card or for "the children's sake" more legitimate and meaningful than a long-term healthy, loving, committed relationship that doesn't have the government's or Jebus' stamp of approval?
Agree with this 100%, but I *think* (I'm not sure) Pete's point was that people view it as more legitimate even if it might not be truly meaningful. I dunno. I'll let him speak for himself.