Love

[Meshak]

I'm not talking about standards.

I am talking about Jesus' standards, not Christians. True Christians aiming to be like Jesus and to live His standards. Secular world do not try to have Jesus' standards which is super high..

 

[Me Myself]

There is another difference between God's love reflected in Christ and Man's love.

Man's love becomes manifest when the need in the recipient has become obvious and if the giver knows how.

God's love is always present leading and assisting even before a need becomes obvious. And God's love allows for the most growth and is wise.

Man's love is not always wise. God's love is always wise.

Thats a difference in the being, not in the love.

Love is love, and in an on itself is wise. Whether the context you had of the situation was wise is another thing.

Human love is a form of God's love.

 

[Me Myself]

I am talking about Jesus' standards, not Christians. True Christians aiming to be like Jesus and to live His standards. Secular world do not try to have Jesus' standards which is super high..

Actions are better than standards, and in actions, christians do not surpass non christians.

Unless you have some statistics showing otherwise.

 

[Me Myself]

Jesus tells us to" love your enemy". Jesus' enemy is non-believers, friend.

Nope. Jesus enemies are those who do not help their neighbour.

Non believers that help their neighbour help Jesus, and as such, are not his enemies.

 

[savagewind]

Nope. Jesus enemies are those who do not help their neighbour.

Non believers that help their neighbour help Jesus, and as such, are not his enemies.

Are you referring to the illustration of the sheep and the goats? I think it does not mean that.

 

[Me Myself]

Are you referring to the illustration of the sheep and the goats? I think it does not mean that.

"But when did I saw you naked and gave you cloth? When did I saw you hungry and fed you? When where you in jail and I visited you?"

I am sure an lot of atheists have done a lot of good for Jesus, by the same token he might see other people calling themselves christians and he may tell them "I never knew you. Not by saying "Lord Lord" you get into the kingdom, but by doing the will of the Father "

 

[savagewind]

"But when did I saw you naked and gave you cloth? When did I saw you hungry and fed you? When where you in jail and I visited you?"

I am sure an lot of atheists have done a lot of good for Jesus, by the same token he might see other people calling themselves christians and he may tell them "I never knew you. Not by saying "Lord Lord" you get into the kingdom, but by doing the will of the Father "

The words Jesus said have spiritual meaning. Correct? It is his word that he has spoken that will save you. How can an atheist be saved by the words of Yehoshua? The illustration of the sheep and the goats mean something else. It is not too difficult to know it.

 

[Me Myself]

The words Jesus said have spiritual meaning. Correct? It is his word that he has spoken that will save you. How can an atheist be saved by the words of Yehoshua? The illustration of the sheep and the goats mean something else. It is not too difficult to know it.

I am not Understanding your mental gymnastics. He is very clearly saying that if you did good to your neighbor, you did good to him.

 

[savagewind]

I am not Understanding your mental gymnastics. He is very clearly saying that if you did good to your neighbor, you did good to him.

No. He very clearly says if you do good to the least of his brothers, you do good to him. Are you saying everyone is Jesus' brother? How?

 

[Meshak]

Originally Posted by Me Myself
Nope. Jesus enemies are those who do not help their neighbour.

Jesus expects all His followers to love everyone around them even their enemy. that is everyone, no exceptions..

 

[Me Myself]

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Jesus expects all His followers to love everyone around them even their enemy. that is everyone, no exceptions..

Jesus apostles failed his expectations on a routinely basis.

Expectations do reveal a lack of omniscience though.

 

[Me Myself]

No. He very clearly says if you do good to the least of his brothers, you do good to him. Are you saying everyone is Jesus' brother? How?

We are all Gods children.

 

[savagewind]

We are all Gods children.

That may be true. But the "brothers" in the illustration of the sheep and the goats most probably means those who do the will of The Father
Mark 3:35

 

[Meshak]

That may be true. But the "brothers" in the illustration of the sheep and the goats most probably means those who do the will of The Father
Mark 3:35

Yes! You are right.