Male Abortion (should man have the right to abort)

[ChristineM]

So the woman should not open up... since she don't want it... the baby I mean ?

Already mentioned, its it not always possible to say no.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

How about the woman's decision to abort, harming the man and the child... Or does that not happen?
...and what about the man's parents? Grandparents to be are really in joyful expectation. Grandchildren mean a lot to them.

None of which overrides an individual's right to decide what does and doesn't happen to their own body.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Her body her choice...... until her choices affect someone else's life then it's different.

No it isn't.

If it were, then I would be able to force you to donate a kidney as the only hypothetical match to save a loved-one.

After all, if your choice is to not donate, then this choice affects someone else's life. And in your own words: then it's different.

 

[Father Heathen]

Abandoning a delivered baby is in no way similar to terminating a pregnancy.

 

[Sand Dancer]

It depends on the law active in the country, off course
In any case, there is such a thing as alimentation, so certainly there are instances of where people are forced to pay up.

Good. I haven't looked into it for a few decades, so I hope things have improved.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

But if the woman doesn’t what to abort, nor give the child to adoption, does the man has the right to run away and not pay for financial support?

The fact that you ask this question shows how little you have thought this through. Either that or you really have black and white vision.

You are phrasing this as an either/or thing, but it is inevitably going to be contextual.
So the answer to your question is: sometimes he will and sometimes he won't.

This would have to be looked at on a case by case basis, because it all depends on the specifics of the situation.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Why can the man do whatever he wants with his own body?...........why can’t the man decide not to use his legs (his body), walk to the bank and make a deposit for the fanatical support of his children?

What the aitch are you talking about?
Care to rephrase that in something comprehensible where you don't try to be condescending and judgemental?

 

[nPeace]

Already mentioned, its it not always possible to say no.

Sometimes women have no choice, because they are forced to open up, but I was not aware that was the subject of the OP. Is it?

 

[David Young]

Post #28: Pretty much absolutely wrong.
Humans appear to be the only species that knows sex can result in pregnancy.
To put it another way, we are the only one of the species which reproduces sexually which, on occasions, engages in sex for reasons other than the pleasure of at least one of the participants.

As for the original question, two factors would come into play when determining whether the biological father could order an abortion against the mother's will:

Is abortion in this jurisdiction in any way funded by the taxpayer? If so, other people besides the mother have a say in the rules which they might not have had if the entire process was paid for privately.

Does this jurisdiction regard a foetus as a part of the mother's body or as a separate entity? This obviously assumes it is a jurisdiction with legal abortion, but even when legal there are different justifications for making it so. This will have knock-on implications for who gets to decide what and why.

 

[Ella S.]

Or maybe there was no choice. Rape for example

Men can also be raped, and then they will be forced to pay child support to their rapist as ruled in Hermesmann v. Seyer

 

[nPeace]

None of which overrides an individual's right to decide what does and doesn't happen to their own body.

I am not sure why you see the need to tell me your opinion on this.
Maybe you just want to talk to me. Hi. Having a good day so far? How was work? Or, did you not go to work today? Okay, bye.

 

[ChristineM]

Sometimes women have no choice, because they are forced to open up, but I was not aware that was the subject of the OP. Is it?

I was not replying to th OP, i have already done that, was replying to your post. Wasn't I?

 

[nPeace]

I was not replying to th OP, i have already done that, was replying to your post. Wasn't I?

Why? Why did you see the need to mention something that everyone knows, which is disconnected from my response to someone else?
I think people want to talk to me, for some reason.

 

[ChristineM]

Why? Why did you see the need to mention something that everyone knows, which is disconnected from my response to someone else?
I think people want to talk to me, for some reason.

Let me quote you

So the woman should not open up... since she don't want it... the baby I mean ?

That was the reason

 

[ChristineM]

Men can also be raped, and then they will be forced to pay child support to their rapist as ruled in Hermesmann v. Seyer

So i understand,

 

[nPeace]

Let me quote you



That was the reason

...and... why did I ask that?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Male Abortion (should men have the right to abort)

Male abortion, also called paper abortion, is a concept that suggests the men should be free to decide if they want to be fathers or not.

In other words, if the woman gets pregnant and she doesn’t whant to abort, the man should have the right to abandon the child, and not pay any kind of pension, child support nor anything of that sort

The logic is: if woman have the right to decide not to be mothers and have the right to avoid such responsability, why can’t men have the same right and decide not to be fathers.

I am personally against men and women aborting, but my question is if you are a person who is pro-abortion do you support both type of abortion?

I have to admit, I've never actually asked myself that question before! (Then again, as a gay man, it's not likely to be top-of-mind much.) But it's a good question -- a very good question.

And on reflection, I would have to say that a man should have the same right as a woman -- to decide (at some reasonable period before birth) that he does not wish to be a parent, with all of those responsibilities. If he duly and properly notifies the woman (or if she does not even let him know that she's pregnant and planning to demand paternal support), then he should have the right not to be saddled with it.

 

[stevecanuck]

That sounds fair enough. I can imagine the woman however, bemoaning he got her pregnant in the first place and now she's on her own.

If she knows the potential consequences before consenting to sex, she has nothing to complain about.

 

[ChristineM]

...and... why did I ask that?

I have no idea and don't really care, i advised that "Already mentioned, its it not always possible to say no".

 

[stvdv]

Men can also be raped, and then they will be forced to pay child support to their rapist as ruled in Hermesmann v. Seyer

Crazy (sadistic) judge IMO

 

[leroy]

The fact that you ask this question shows how little you have thought this through. Either that or you really have black and white vision.

You are phrasing this as an either/or thing, but it is inevitably going to be contextual.
So the answer to your question is: sometimes he will and sometimes he won't.

This would have to be looked at on a case by case basis, because it all depends on the specifics of the situation.

Well assume a "normal" situation .... a 30yo man with a normal job and economic stability had sex, got pregnant but he doesn't whant to be a father.........should he have the legal right to avoid the responsibility of being a father?