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'Man was created in the image of G-d'

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
No, I didn't even know what your letter formula meant. I mean, it's letters. are we supposed to know what some random letters represent in that equation? lol

It's your equation, reduced to empty values.

As you can see, it doesn't work.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
NOPE! They teach he is the awaited Jewish Mashiach /Messiah.


Joh 1:41 He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.

Joh 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.

Joh 1:43 The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me.

Joh 1:44 Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.

Joh 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.


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Say what? Of course, and also Divine, and the savior for Gentiles as well.
I was referring to your statement that Judaism doesn't use different Prophets from Christianity.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Ingledsva said:
NOPE! They teach he is the awaited Jewish Mashiach /Messiah.


Joh 1:41 He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ.

Joh 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.

Joh 1:43 The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me.

Joh 1:44 Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.

Joh 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
Say what? Of course, and also Divine, and the savior for Gentiles as well.
I was referring to your statement that Judaism doesn't use different Prophets from Christianity.


I never made such a statement.

And that was in reply to you saying the Jewish Mashiach is not the Christian Messiah. It shows absolutely that they thought Jesus was the awaited Jewish Mashiach spoken of by Moses, etc.


Ingledsva said:
They are saying Christians have misread/mistranslated their texts, AND - that Jesus does not fulfill the Moshesh prophecies.
disciple said:
I clearly explained to you already, Judaism and Christianity have different Prophets.



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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I never made such a statement.

And that was in reply to you saying the Jewish Mashiach is not the Christian Messiah. It shows absolutely that they thought Jesus was the awaited Jewish Mashiach spoken of by Moses, etc.







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How can Christians 'misread' Jewish Prophetic texts that Judaism doesn't even view as Prophetic? Makes no sense, I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
'Man was created in the image of G-d'.
The G-d that is the likeness of man is Jesus, not an "invisible' god.

Jesus is The Creator G-d.

Peace be on you.

Holy Quran says:
[ch 30 : v 31] So set thy face to the service of religion as one devoted to God. And follow the nature made by Allah — the nature in which He has created mankind. There is no altering the creation of Allah. That is the right religion. But most men know not.

Human has to imbibe divine attributes at human level. It is meaning of 'image of God'. In islam, Jesus was a human Prophet for Israelites. His name is used as metaphor for second coming and according to Ahmadiyya Muslims, such coming is done.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Ingledsva said:
I never made such a statement.

And that was in reply to you saying the Jewish Mashiach is not the Christian Messiah. It shows absolutely that they thought Jesus was the awaited Jewish Mashiach spoken of by Moses, etc.
How can Christians 'misread' Jewish Prophetic texts that Judaism doesn't even view as Prophetic? Makes no sense, I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point.


Quit trying to twist what I say.


The Jews are awaiting their Messiah - and have writings concerning such. That is a FACT.


Obviously the Christians mistranslated Jewish texts in an attempt to prove their Jesus was that awaited Messiah.


However, the fact that they did so PROVES they thought Jesus was the awaited Jewish Messiah. (I also gave you a Bible quote where they say he is the one spoken of by Moses.)


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CMike

Well-Known Member
Since G-D can't have physical manifestations, we are talking spirituality.

Here is a good article explaining it in more detail.

What Is the
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I feel that we are not made in the I mage of god as the body organism, but made in the image of god as spirit, or consciousness, so we are all collectively God, we cannot be anything else, there is nothing else outside God.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Since G-D can't have physical manifestations, we are talking spirituality.

Here is a good article explaining it in more detail.

What Is the


If this is to me -


What does this have to do with our discussion?


Edit - Thought I should add that I don't believe in the Abrahamic God, -


However I'm going to guess there are a lot of Abrahamic God believers, that think God can have physical manifestations, if it wants to. :D


And obviously the Trinity Christians believe Jesus is God - hence a manifestation.




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John Martin

Active Member
The image and likeness of God has to be understood in the qualities:
God can be described in this way:
God is Holy,
God is Whole,
God is Eternal, timeless,
God Unfolds,
God is Fullness,

God created human beings in his/her image and likeness means:
Human beings in their deep level are:
holy,whole,eternal, fullness, and unfolding.
You can see the difference for God it is capital H,W,E.U and F.
For human beings its is small h,w.e,u and f.
God's nature is like the Sun
Human nature is like the Moon.
God's Fullness is inherent Fullness, human fullness is received fullness.
Human beings,like the Moon, receive from God( the Sun) and give to the others.
In the case of Jesus Christ, he realized himself to be the Moon and also the Sun.
He said, I am in God and God in me(the Moon consciousness). the Father(God) and I are one'(The Sun consciousness).
 

roger1440

I do stuff
'Man was created in the image of G-d'.
The G-d that is the likeness of man is Jesus, not an "invisible' god.

Jesus is The Creator G-d.
We are created in God’s image in that we reflect the glory of God by our holiness. Only God is our master and we are not mastered by anything else. Remember, God is a jealous god. When God rules our life, then we are born from above. God is then our father. Hence the virgin birth.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
'Man was created in the image of G-d'.
The G-d that is the likeness of man is Jesus, not an "invisible' god.

Jesus is The Creator G-d.
I'm curious, disciple... How do you understand the relationship between Jesus (the Son of God) and "God the Father"? Could you give me your perspective, particularly with respect to your above comments?
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
God could not have made us in his image - for no man sick of sin is as wicked as this tyrant.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
To me, being created in the image of God simply means that in this life we have free will.

Peace, :)

Bruce
Is that how you normally use the word "image" or do you reserve that particular definition exclusively for when you're talking about our being created in the image of God? Can you use the word "image" in a sentence, referring to absolutely anything except our image as it relates to God, in such a way that it it not understood to mean "the representation of someone or something's physical attributes?

For instance, we say that a little boy who looks a lot like his dad is said to be "the spittin' image of his dad." We say that identical twins, who looks almost exactly alike, are "the mirror image" of one another. We say that when we see what we look like in a mirror, we are looking at our "image." We say that a photographer captures the image of what someone looks like with his camera. We even say that a person is "the image of health" when he looks to be healthy. We never, ever, ever use the word to refer to free will in normal conversation. Why should the meaning of the word be completely different when we're talking about God creating man in His image?
 

John Martin

Active Member

To me, being created in the image of God simply means that in this life we have free will.

Peace, :)

Bruce

God does not create human beings with free will. If he creates with free will then he cannot blame human beings for making choices. Suppose you take someone to the dining room and show potatoes and carrots and say you are free to chose what you want, you cannot blame that person if he chooses potatoes.
But if you say to that person you can choose potatoes or carrots. If you choose potatoes you go to heaven and if you choose carrots you go to hell but you are free. Is there really free will? It is a conditioned will. Somehow you expect that person to choose potatoes. There is no free will.
So God creates human beings, does he create them with free will or conditioned free will?
my proposition is that God does not create human beings with free will but with freedom. It is freedom from becoming. God creates human beings in his/her image and likeness. It means there is no need to become anything and they do not lose anything. Only when human beings are in a state of freedom we can say that they have a free will. Conditioned free will belongs to the evolutionary process of the spiritual growth of human beings. It has a beginning and an end.
In this sense the image and likeness of God consists in the innate freedom of the
human beings.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I'm curious, disciple... How do you understand the relationship between Jesus (the Son of God) and "God the Father"? Could you give me your perspective, particularly with respect to your above comments?

I read the texts in the context of the religion. Jesus=God, therefore we can find Scripture to back this fact up.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
I read the texts in the context of the religion. Jesus=God, therefore we can find Scripture to back this fact up.

No offence mate, but you seem to completely fail to understand the basics of Christianity.

No the texts do not equate Jesus to god, Jesus is the son of god. God is the father.

Jesus is not equal to god, Christianity posits a divine trinity. God the father, god the son and the holy spirit.

Jesus beong the son of god.
 
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