Mandatory Vaccinations?

[Friend of Mara]

No. I'm saying see both sides.

If you can't find "any. thing." wrong with vaccines and you discredit sure affects that's biased.

No person I'd hope will base their health treatment "etc" on one side of the story. They'd as "what the worse that can happen" and think for themselves as well (generalizing). Without that from both experts and laymen it's hard to decern so people jump.

In it's self, it won't kill a person. I just find it, how to say, irresponsible...and this is not only for ones own health but others too.

Its risk management. A .0000001% chance of something bad vs perhaps a 12% chance of something bad. There is a higher likelihood of dying in a car crash but we risk it because the benefits are worth it.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Its risk management. A .0000001% chance of something bad vs perhaps a 12% chance of something bad. There is a higher likelihood of dying in a car crash but we risk it because the benefits are worth it.

Of course you can take the risk though rare. Since people Did have side effects probably some worse than COVID, why would you feel immune cause you're at such a low risk?

I assume most unvaccinated have other factors (listed) not just side effects as reasons why they don't vaccinate, but as it's experimental that alone should say something.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Of course you can take the risk though rare. Since people Did have side effects probably some worse than COVID, why would you feel immune cause you're at such a low risk?

I assume most unvaccinated have other factors (listed) not just side effects as reasons why they don't vaccinate, but as it's experimental that alone should say something.

If the chances of something happening to you are comparable to winning the lotto then I don't worry about it.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

If the chances of something happening to you are comparable to winning the lotto then I don't worry about it.

Yes. That's what I feel about COVID I'm not at such a high risk it would warrant worrying over my health and others.

Of course one would have to come to that conclusion themselves not from knowing thousands of people dying.

Weigh the risk but don't discredit those who one risk over another.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Yes. That's what I feel about COVID I'm not at such a high risk it would warrant worrying over my health and others.

Of course one would have to come to that conclusion themselves not from knowing thousands of people dying.

Way the risk but don't discredit those who one risk over another.

The reality of your risk and the risk of others is not minuscule.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The reality of your risk and the risk of others is not minuscule.

How do you know?

That's generalizing. Somewhat like saying everyone is at the same level of risk to get lung cancer but not everyone smokes.

It's situational. Take care of your health. Social distance. Get vaccinated. Just don't discredit others who have different perspective than you (those who align with your views).

 

[Friend of Mara]

How do you know?

That's generalizing. Somewhat like saying everyone is at the same level of risk to get lung cancer but not everyone smokes.

It's situational. Take care of your health. Social distance. Get vaccinated. Just don't discredit others who have different perspective than you (those who align with your views).

If you are unvaccinated you pose the risk of being infected. Are you in an area with zero infections recorded?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

If you are unvaccinated you pose the risk of being infected. Are you in an area with zero infections recorded?

Yes. But level of risk is a huge factor. The only level of risk I can think of with vaccines is finding out which one has the least side affects and take that.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Yes. But level of risk is a huge factor. The only level of risk I can think of with vaccines is finding out which one has the least side affects and take that.

Edit:
The risk between the two is nigh incomparable.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Edit:
The risk between the two is nigh incomparable.

Level of risk is a huge factor.

Someone living by herself doesn't have a high risk...she probably have lower risk than those died or affected from vaccines. We don't know whose at more risk than the other. Best we not make generalizations. Another big factor is the country a person lives in. The US has low populated states as well as high population ones.

Depends.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Level of risk is a huge factor.

Someone living by herself doesn't have a high risk...she probably have lower risk than those died or affected from vaccines. We don't know whose at more risk than the other. Best we not make generalizations. Another big factor is the country a person lives in. The US has low populated states as well as high population ones.

Depends.

Someone living alone has a higher chance of getting covid than they do of having a negative reaction.

 

[Suave]

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc? Until it has been established that the vaccine caused the death, it is premature to presume that the vaccine caused it.

Likewise, it is premature to presume heart inflammations by being mRNA vaccinated are almost certainly going to be mild cases without long-term harm.

17 Children Dead, More Than 2000 Suffering From Multi System Inflammatory Syndrome Due To COVID Vaccine

July 7, 2021 17 Children Dead, More Than 2000 Suffering From Multi System Inflammatory Syndrome Due To COVID Vaccine | GreatGameIndia

 

[Friend of Mara]

Likewise, it is premature to presume heart inflammations by being mRNA vaccinated are almost certainly going to be mild cases without long-term harm.

They are in other mRNA vaccinations.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Someone living alone has a higher chance of getting covid than they do of having a negative reaction.

How?

We practiced social distancing for a long time, so if someone lives alone than there their risk of catching COVID (and other viral diseases) would be less. I have a little bit more risk, someone in a more dense area or works everyday even more, and so on. We are all at A risk, vaccinated to, just vaccinated people lowered theirs. Unvaccinated stayed at the same risk (unless they do something or around someone with COVID that increases their risk).

 

[Suave]

They are in other mRNA vaccinations.

Pfizer is the only one approved to be used for vaccinating adolescents, Right?

 

[Friend of Mara]

How?

We practiced social distancing for a long time, so if someone lives alone than there their risk of catching COVID (and other viral diseases) would be less. I have a little bit more risk, someone in a more dense area or works everyday even more, and so on. We are all at A risk, vaccinated to, just vaccinated people lowered theirs. Unvaccinated stayed at the same risk (unless they do something or around someone with COVID that increases their risk).

The risk of getting covid while unvaccinated is never lower than the risk of having an adverse reaction. Outside of someone living miles away from humans with no interaction at all. If they are like that then I don't see a need to vaccinate. But if you exist in a community, go to work, go to the grocery store ect you will have a higher risk of getting covid than having an adverse reaction.

And on the macro level we need at least 70% vaccination rate to beat the pandemic. So until we get to that number it will be beneficial to get vaccinated. If we hit a high number of vaccinations then I don't really care if people are vaccinated anymore or not.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Pfizer is the only one approved to be used for vaccinating adolescents, Right?

Seems so far.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Likewise, it is premature to presume heart inflammations by being mRNA vaccinated are almost certainly going to be mild cases without long-term harm.

17 Children Dead, More Than 2000 Suffering From Multi System Inflammatory Syndrome Due To COVID Vaccine

July 7, 2021 17 Children Dead, More Than 2000 Suffering From Multi System Inflammatory Syndrome Due To COVID Vaccine | GreatGameIndia

The only sources for this story are from India. None of them show an established link between the vaccine and these case. Interestingly, one of the doctors pushing this story is the discredited Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi.

Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines don’t cause death, won’t decimate world’s population

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The risk of getting covid while unvaccinated is never lower than the risk of having an adverse reaction. Outside of someone living miles away from humans with no interaction at all. If they are like that then I don't see a need to vaccinate. But if you exist in a community, go to work, go to the grocery store ect you will have a higher risk of getting covid than having an adverse reaction.

The risk of getting COVID when one is alone is less than if he or she was out and about. It's less than side affects from the vaccine only because the loner can't transmit a virus she didn't get from another person. No one is there to infect her. However, they're still finding people who have a close connection between side affects of the vaccine and people taking them. I don't believe the media and government will ever post that X side affect IS caused by the vaccine to not cause a panic, but they do keep up with these things no matter how rare it is.

If experts keep up and take them into consideration, why not lay people (generally speaking)?

And on the macro level we need at least 70% vaccination rate to beat the pandemic. So until we get to that number it will be beneficial to get vaccinated. If we hit a high number of vaccinations then I don't really care if people are vaccinated anymore or not.

What should we do to get unvaccinated people vaccinated?

Talking about it is one thing, but what's the solution?

 

[Friend of Mara]

The risk of getting COVID when one is alone is less than if he or she was out and about. It's less than side affects from the vaccine only because the loner can't transmit a virus she didn't get from another person. No one is there to infect her. However, they're still finding people who have a close connection between side affects of the vaccine and people taking them. I don't believe the media and government will ever post that X side affect IS caused by the vaccine to not cause a panic, but they do keep up with these things no matter how rare it is.

If experts keep up and take them into consideration, why not lay people (generally speaking)?

Side effects have been well documented. It is typically the reverse when it comes to news stations. They often hype up potential side effects rather than downplay them.

What should we do to get unvaccinated people vaccinated?

Talking about it is one thing, but what's the solution?

Make sure people know it is safe and crush misinformation. The FDA should also approve at least one soon as they are able.