waitasec
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are you referring to the subconscious?
i would argue they're all just claims which cannot be verified..unless it's verified by faith...by faith i mean, faith in hope.
save the world from what?
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Man's Interpretation
- Thread starter InfidelRiot
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No I don't think so. The subconscious is defined as part of the mind. Mind is flesh. It is somehting else but related.
True, but there is more. The claims can be justified. But I think by the person hisself, not someone else.
Destruction.
waitasec
Veteran Member
ok what is it, and how do you verify it is something else?
absolutely true
where does that idea come from?
It is spirit. If I could verify it do you think I would be nobody wasting time on forum?
Observation among other things.
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Do shark's have their own interpretation of the Bible. I think only humans can interpret any human text. And that the Bible should be interpret in it's historical context and through the filter of reason and logic, those who interpret it in any other way are most likely to be wrong.
waitasec
Veteran Member
then you can't verify there is more than using faith in hope.
are you also taking into consideration the good part of humanity?
This is only half true. I can not verify it to you or anyone else. I can verify it to myself
Yes, all the time. It is why I am Christian.
waitasec
Veteran Member
why would that be half true if what you are able to verify for yourself only counts for yourself?
so why do we need saving?
I can say half because it is me and everyone else. I can not give you a literal fraction as people keep dying and being born. I guess it's something like 1 to 7 billion. Half, OK?
I don't know.
waitasec
Veteran Member
why everyone else...? what do i have to do with your faith in hope?
then why say it?
Because what he's able to verify for you only counts for you.
waitasec
Veteran Member
not if it's unverifiable
This is another subject. How to prove something it not. Can it be done? It's called proving negatives I think. Some people prove to themselves that something does not exist. They are certainly free to do so. But to be insisting the nothing they believe is true is true for everyone is...not possible, is it?
waitasec
Veteran Member
but you have to understand that if one cannot be convinced, they cannot be convinced because their standard of being convinced hasn't been met...which has nothing to do with anyone else's standard of being convinced for themselves.
"Cannot" can only occur at death.
"their standard of being convinced hasn't been met"..YET. But it cannot be met if the search is over, can it?
Isaiah 55:6
I will give you my interpretation. It is different than custom.
diligently inquire for Yahweh to find (when you) call (God) exists near.
1 Samuel 3:1-10
So Eli told Samuel, "Go and lie down, and if he calls you, say, 'Speak, LORD, for your servant is listening"
waitasec
Veteran Member
and?
what do you mean by YET...?
maybe they are convinced of something else...have you considered that?
how is the search over if one cannot be convinced of another's hope in faith?
it's almost as if you do not trust the others standard in order to be convinced for themselves...
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you're assuming that if one isn't convinced of your hope in faith, they are not diligently searching...that is quite an assumption.
how would the servant know the voice of the lord?
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I have decided to have a go at answering your question at post 201; save the world from what?
The correct answer for me is really I don't know. I will share my speculation.
What if the whole world was headed for slavery at the time Messiah came? We know that it is possible as it is already something that is real in Africa. (I'm going to tie some threads together). There are some people, we will assume they are real people and not stones come to life by the power of Jah. They live in miserable poverty. They work only for food enough to keep them alive. Do you think it might be possible that Y'Hushua came to save the world from that? I do.
The correct answer for me is really I don't know. I will share my speculation.
What if the whole world was headed for slavery at the time Messiah came? We know that it is possible as it is already something that is real in Africa. (I'm going to tie some threads together). There are some people, we will assume they are real people and not stones come to life by the power of Jah. They live in miserable poverty. They work only for food enough to keep them alive. Do you think it might be possible that Y'Hushua came to save the world from that? I do.
waitasec
Veteran Member
we can save ourselves through hope...
we can destroy ourselves by controlling others
Yes, I agree. It is people who made Christianity look like it is for controlling people. People use whatever they can get their hands on to control. Why not Christianity too?
Where does the power of hope originate? I think it originates with God, you do not. I think we are disagreeing very nicely, do you?
You write like a skeptic I have read on another forum. Do you post on any other religious themed forums waitasec?
