Man's Interpretation

[InfidelRiot]

in terms of walking through one...it will say without saying a word
'no you can't"

That made no sense. Honestly, learn how to appreciate the language you were taught.

 

[waitasec]

That made no sense. Honestly, learn how to appreciate the language you were taught.

can you walk through a wall?

 

[InfidelRiot]

can you walk through a wall?

Not at all, now make your point clear or otherwise there was no point except this inane question.

 

[waitasec]

Not at all, now make your point clear or otherwise there was no point except this inane question.

god doesn't speak for itself in the same manner a wall does, or directions on a map

please do catch up...

 

[InfidelRiot]

please do catch up...

I apologize for being unable to read every single post in this insanely long thread.

As though god could in any way speak to any one except for those whom believe in him. Of what does that inform you? If only a certain individual hears a voice, should that individual not be considered of "hearing voices" according to the psychiatric association?

 

[waitasec]

I apologize for being unable to read every single post in this insanely long thread.

well you only have your self to blame for assuming...
besides it seems as though you jumped on my post without even taking a moment to read what i was responding to, am i wrong?

plainly state what it is i am saying since you are convinced it's something you don't agree with without even knowing what it is i am saying

:areyoucra

As though god could in any way speak to any one except for those whom believe in him. Of what does that inform you? If only a certain individual hears a voice, should that individual not be considered of "hearing voices" according to the psychiatric association?

wow...
just wow. i didn't imply that at all...you're still waaaaaay behind.

 

[InfidelRiot]

wow...
just wow. i didn't imply that at all...you're still waaaaaay behind.

If I am so behind, surely you could have made sure that I was caught up in a sentence or two instead of stating the obvious from your point of view. If I am so far behind, please, correct the path I am obviously wrong in taking.

 

[waitasec]

If I am so behind, surely you could have made sure that I was caught up in a sentence or two instead of stating the obvious from your point of view. If I am so far behind, please, correct the path I am obviously wrong in taking.

this is as far as i can take it...the rest is up to you.

If biblical scripture means what it means, why is man divided on its interpretation?

If the bible is divinely inspired and god meant exactly what he meant, then why is it that man has to interpret what god meant?

It's called misunderstanding. It happens to people who know each other very well. Even married couples can misunderstand intention.

The Bible is written in an ancient language. It is bound to happen.

which begs the question...
why is god so limited in representing who god is?

a wall speaks loud and clear, as well as directions on a map.

god, not so much.

If a wall speaks according to your perceptions, then you're no better off than those who claim to hear the divinity of god.

good luck.

 

[InfidelRiot]

good luck.

IT should be directed more toward you since all you did was quote without offering any interpretation of your own.

Thank you, nonetheless, even though you failed. Perhaps you can do better in the future.

 

[savagewind]

Are the children fighting? LOL.

I understand waitasec. The wall speaks without speaking "I am a solid thing, you must go AROUND to pass me". You cannot use the same logic about God. God is a spirit.

InfidelRiot made an excellent point I think. God talks to some people. They end up on psych drugs in a mental hospital because they don't understand or their family and the establishment does not understand. Is it God's fault? I don't think so.

 

[InfidelRiot]

Is it God's fault? I don't think so.

Is it god at all?

 

[savagewind]

Is it god at all?

Sometimes it is and sometimes it is not.

 

[InfidelRiot]

Sometimes it is and sometimes it is not.

Don't go all Buddhist dumb on me.

 

[waitasec]

Are the children fighting? LOL.

I understand waitasec. The wall speaks without speaking "I am a solid thing, you must go AROUND to pass me". You cannot use the same logic about God. God is a spirit.

InfidelRiot made an excellent point I think. God talks to some people. They end up on psych drugs in a mental hospital because they don't understand or their family and the establishment does not understand. Is it God's fault? I don't think so.

why not?

if you understood what i meant by the wall speaking for itself, why not apply the same reasoning when it comes to god?

 

[gzusfrk]

If biblical scripture means what it means, why is man divided on its interpretation?

If the bible is divinely inspired and god meant exactly what he meant, then why is it that man has to interpret what god meant?

because the Word works on the heart, and every one has a different heart, The Word tells you what it says according to YOUR heart.

 

[savagewind]

why not?

if you understood what i meant by the wall speaking for itself, why not apply the same reasoning when it comes to god?

It is because God is not a physical thing. God is a Spiritual Person.

If a person is fortunate they will grow in understanding of the physical laws of the universe.

To be using universal physical laws to understand a Spiritual Being Who is greater than the universe is imprudent. imho

 

[waitasec]

It is because God is not a physical thing. God is a Spiritual Person.

what does that mean?
you are a physical person and so am i...what does god being spiritual have to do with us being physical? are you suggesting that god can only make himself known in the spiritual sense? so how does god contact the physical?

If a person is fortunate they will grow in understanding of the physical laws of the universe.

To be using universal physical laws to understand a Spiritual Being Who is greater than the universe is imprudent. imho

are you saying the bible is that worm hole, if you will? if so, how do you determine that the bible is what it claims to be?

 

[savagewind]

what does god being spiritual have to do with us being physical? are you suggesting that god can only make himself known in the spiritual sense? so how does god contact the physical?

Can you see your will waitasec? Your will is what you want and what you are willing to do for it. Can you see, feel or hear it? It's spiritual.

are you saying the bible is that worm hole, if you will? if so, how do you determine that the bible is what it claims to be?

No, nothing like a worm hole. But it is a funny picture in my imagination.

How did I determine what the Bible is to me? Time, meditation, practice and experience. I'm not done yet. It is not the only way to know God imo.

 

[waitasec]

Can you see your will waitasec? Your will is what you want and what you are willing to do for it. Can you see, feel or hear it? It's spiritual.

from my POV, it's mental...and even emotional

No, nothing like a worm hole. But it is a funny picture in my imagination.

How did I determine what the Bible is to me? Time, meditation, practice and experience.

i can certainly see and understand that...however, as an outsider i hear claims being made about other holy books...do you see where i am coming from?

I'm not done yet. It is not the only way to know God imo.

i'll be done when i'm dead

 

[savagewind]

from my POV, it's mental...and even emotional

Yes it is both. But it is present even when you are not thinking about it or feeling it.

i hear claims being made about other holy books...do you see where i am coming from?

I do. Some claims about the Bible are true, some are not. Some claims about other scriptural traditions are true, some are not. I believe that to identify Y'Hushua Ha'Mashiyach and to know that he is the One who saves the world, I need the Bible Canon. But I would not stake someone's life on it.

i'll be done when i'm dead

I'm glad for you. It is a worthy endeavor to keep searching.