Marriage and sexuality

[Mr Cheese]

I have no idea what that word means. Just answer the question. It is easy. You choose one of the options presented. Fact is you do not even have to like it, I am asking what would be better, not if you like it.

A non sequitur (pronounced /ˌnɒnˈsiːkwɨtər or ˌnɒnˈsɛkwɨtər/) is a conversational and literary device, often used for comical purposes (as opposed to its use in formal logic). It is a comment which, due to its apparent lack of meaning relative to what it follows,[1] seems absurd to the point of being humorous or confusing, as in the following joke:
Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Fish. The use of non sequitur in humor can be deliberate or unintentional. Literally, the expression is Latin for "it does not follow."[2] In other literature, a non sequitur can denote an abrupt, illogical, unexpected or absurd turn of plot or dialogue not normally associated with or appropriate to that preceding it. It is a type of logical fallacy.
The non sequitur can be understood as the converse of cliché. Traditional comedy and drama can depend on the ritualization and predictability of human emotional experiences, where the Theatre of the Absurd uses disjunction and unpredictability. The New Yorker is popular for their use of non sequitur one-liners in their comics, often alienating people who do not regularly read the publication.


he's saying his own logic when discussed by other people, in this case you, becomes non valid, stupid and without merit.

Essentially only he is allowed to spout drivel and it will remain logical, on topic and relevant. As soon as anyone else does, it is a non sequitor

Glad to have cleared that up :clap

 

[enchanted_one1975]

no, that would be sad to throw away your own existence.

Homosexuality does not remove volition from people. They can chose to behave in away that does not conflict with the very existence and survival of the human race.

And again, you could choose to marry only people of your same race as doing otherwise sickens many people upon the face of the earth.

 

[Mr Cheese]

And again, you could choose to marry only people of your same race as doing otherwise sickens many people upon the face of the earth.

thats big in Japan

 

[Kerr]

no, that would be sad to throw away your own existence.

Homosexuality does not remove volition from people. They can chose to behave in away that does not conflict with the very existence and survival of the human race.

Which is plain ignorance and highly insensitive to say. It would conflict with their own nature, a nature that does not harm anyone at all, therefor it would do far more damage then good.

 

[madhatter85]

Which would make things far worse.

How would it make things far worse?

Besides, I don´t think it is a defect any more then I think that me being right handed is (bad example).

if it's a bad example, don't use it.

If geneticists were to come out and prove there was a defective gene that causes abnormal sexual behavior mammals, the face of homosexuality would completely change. I'm just waiting for that day to say "I told you so":beach:

 

[Kerr]

A non sequitur (pronounced /ˌnɒnˈsiːkwɨtər or ˌnɒnˈsɛkwɨtər/) is a conversational and literary device, often used for comical purposes (as opposed to its use in formal logic). It is a comment which, due to its apparent lack of meaning relative to what it follows,[1] seems absurd to the point of being humorous or confusing, as in the following joke:
Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Fish. The use of non sequitur in humor can be deliberate or unintentional. Literally, the expression is Latin for "it does not follow."[2] In other literature, a non sequitur can denote an abrupt, illogical, unexpected or absurd turn of plot or dialogue not normally associated with or appropriate to that preceding it. It is a type of logical fallacy.
The non sequitur can be understood as the converse of cliché. Traditional comedy and drama can depend on the ritualization and predictability of human emotional experiences, where the Theatre of the Absurd uses disjunction and unpredictability. The New Yorker is popular for their use of non sequitur one-liners in their comics, often alienating people who do not regularly read the publication.


he's saying his own logic when discussed by other people, in this case you, becomes non valid, stupid and without merit.

Essentially only he is allowed to spout drivel and it will remain logical, on topic and relevant. As soon as anyone else does, it is a non sequitor

Glad to have cleared that up :clap

Well, I can say that to him a lot as well. Does not make it true.

 

[madhatter85]

And again, you could choose to marry only people of your same race as doing otherwise sickens many people upon the face of the earth.

And again you choose to equate homosexuality to race and ethnicity when that is a fallacy.

I have proven over and over that race or ethnicity is not behavioral and inherited, while homosexuality is behavioral and not inherited.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

If geneticists were to come out and prove there was a defective gene that causes abnormal sexual behavior mammals, the face of homosexuality would completely change. I'm just waiting for that day to say "I told you so":beach:

How would it change? You expect us to all line up and get "cured"? Some of us enjoy being who we are and we feel that our Gods and Goddesses made us this way for a reason.

 

[madhatter85]

How would it change? You expect us to all line up and get "cured"? Some of us enjoy being who we are and we feel that our Gods and Goddesses made us this way for a reason.

So if you are allowed to spout off religion as an argument for homosexuality. Christians and Muslims should be able to do the same when arguing against.:foot:

 

[Mr Cheese]

How would it make things far worse?
if it's a bad example, don't use it.

If geneticists were to come out and prove there was a defective gene that causes abnormal sexual behavior mammals, the face of homosexuality would completely change. I'm just waiting for that day to say "I told you so":beach:

This means we should sterelise more hetero people...

But then lets look at the actual science not the puerile bigotry of the ignorant;

Here we see science actually is coming to conclusions that homosexuality actually IMPROVES the survival of the human race.... oh well that's science for you, not bigotry

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In a 2008 study, its authors stated that "There is considerable evidence that human sexual orientation is genetically influenced, so it is not known how homosexuality, which tends to lower reproductive success, is maintained in the population at a relatively high frequency." They hypothesized that "while genes predisposing to homosexuality reduce homosexuals' reproductive success, they may confer some advantage in heterosexuals who carry them." and their results suggested that "genes predisposing to homosexuality may confer a mating advantage in heterosexuals, which could help explain the evolution and maintenance of homosexuality in the population." [46]

^ Zietsch, B., Morley, K., Shekar, S., Verweij, K., Keller, M., Macgregor, S., et al. (2008, November). Genetic factors predisposing to homosexuality may increase mating success in heterosexuals. Evolution and Human Behavior, 29(6), 424-433. Retrieved April 1, 2009, doi:10.1016/j.evolhumbehav.2008.07.002

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Important new evidence on a plausible mechanism for the evolution of :gay genes: has emerged from the elegant work of Camperio-Ciani [24]. They found in two large, independent studies that the female relatives of homosexual men tended to have significantly more offspring than those of the heterosexual men. Female relatives of the homosexual men on their mother's side tended to have more offspring than those on the father's side. This indicates that females carrying a putative "gay genes" complex are more fecund than women lacking this complex of genes, and thereby can compensate for any decreased fertility of the males carrying the genes. This is a well known phenomenon in evolution known as "sexual antagonism", and has been widely documented for many traits that are advantageous in one sex but not in the other. This provides solid experimental evidence of how "gay genes" could not only survive but thrive over the course of evolution

^ a b Camperio-Ciani et al. 2004

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[enchanted_one1975]

And again you choose to equate homosexuality to race and ethnicity when that is a fallacy.

I have proven over and over that race or ethnicity is not behavioral and inherited, while homosexuality is behavioral and not inherited.

All you have proven is that you are closed minded and ignorant. if a white person chooses to marry a black person, he or she did not inherit that desire like the white person inherited being white and the black person inherited being black. They are choosing to take part in that relationship. By your own reasoning they should be able to ignore those feelings that they have for the member of the opposite race and just marry who nature intended them to marry. Again, just because it takes place in your home doesn't mean it is what we all will live by.

 

[Mr Cheese]

And again you choose to equate homosexuality to race and ethnicity when that is a fallacy.

I have proven over and over that race or ethnicity is not behavioral and inherited, while homosexuality is behavioral and not inherited.

suddenly by spouting bigotry online, you can do more than science?

:clapamazing....

 

[Venatoris]

Madhatter, I'm still waiting for a response to post#97. It's on page 10.

thanks.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

So if you are allowed to spout off religion as an argument for homosexuality. Christians and Muslims should be able to do the same when arguing against.:foot:

Do your toes taste good? If nothing else you should be used to the taste by now. I am not using religion as an argument for or against homosexuality. I am saying that my Gods and Goddesses made me who I am for a reason. To allow man to change me would be a slap in the face to Them. I will never allow that to happen.

 

[Kerr]

How would it make things far worse?

Do you know how much suffering intolerance is the cause of?

if it's a bad example, don't use it.

If geneticists were to come out and prove there was a defective gene that causes abnormal sexual behavior mammals, the face of homosexuality would completely change. I'm just waiting for that day to say "I told you so":beach:

When I say it was a bad example, I meant you should ignore the holes in it. I mean, people can change if they are right or left handed with practise, you cannot do that with homosexuality.

Well, thing is you assume too much about homosexuality. It has a genetic component, one of many factors in it, but homosexuality has been around longer then man kind and have never caused anything to go extinct. It won´t harm anyone, I say again, anyone. It has not prevented us from becoming the dominant animal on this planet, and it will not cause our death or even harm us at all. It is completely harmless. May even do some good. Fact is I would say that it probably does something good. It is just to look at how animals deal with it. It has a roll for them, and it may have a roll for us, even if we do not know it.

In any case it does not matter if it is a genetic flaw or not. Not for the morality or acceptance of it anyway. Since it does not exist any downside to the "flaw" in question, it may not even be worth looking for a cure of.

 

[madhatter85]

I am not using religion as an argument for or against homosexuality. I am saying that my Gods and Goddesses made me who I am for a reason.

Oxymoron.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Well, thing is you assume too much about homosexuality. It has a genetic component, one of many factors in it, but homosexuality has been around longer then man kind and have never caused anything to go extinct. It won´t harm anyone, I say again, anyone. It has not prevented us from becoming the dominant animal on this planet, and it will not cause our death or even harm us at all. It is completely harmless. May even do some good. Fact is I would say that it probably does something good. .

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/1757592-post190.html

 

[Kerr]

And again you choose to equate homosexuality to race and ethnicity when that is a fallacy.

I have proven over and over that race or ethnicity is not behavioral and inherited, while homosexuality is behavioral and not inherited.

Which is flawed. There are studies, for example they show that if we have identical twins the chance of them both being homosexual is higher then with "ordinary" twins. Genetics is a part of it. It is not everything, but it has a roll to play.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Oxymoron.

I call shennigans....

until you provide pictures of your my little pony collection

I think every time you comment on this issue we should kill a smurf

 

[Kerr]

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/1757592-post190.html

Ok, thanks, missed that one, lol.