mary, virgin or not

[Alceste]

you obviously believe a woman can have a baby without having sex through artificial means

If we can do that, then surely God also has the means to artificially inseminate a woman.

A woman can't get pregnant without the genetic contribution of a human male, whether artificially inseminated are not. Are you implying that the Christian god has material, normally functioning human testicles - or something else? (That's a serious question.)

 

[mohammed_beiruti]

A woman can't get pregnant without the genetic contribution of a human male, whether artificially inseminated are not. Are you implying that the Christian god has material, normally functioning human testicles - or something else? (That's a serious question.)

what about Adam/fisrt human on earth.

I am intrested to to see scientific explination for it.

 

[payak]

what scientist said adam was first

 

[Pegg]

A woman can't get pregnant without the genetic contribution of a human male, whether artificially inseminated are not. Are you implying that the Christian god has material, normally functioning human testicles - or something else? (That's a serious question.)

no im not suggesting there was even any physical contact.

God already had a son whom lived with him as a powerful spirit creature in heaven. All he needed to do was transfere the life of his son into the womb of mary the way a doctor transfers a 'test tube baby' into a surrogate mother. Jesus did not need the human dna from a father because he was not human....he was only half human....that is why John says that Jesus was 'divine'

 

[mohammed_beiruti]

what scientist said adam was first

whatever, first human on earth.

 

[payak]

what about the summerians who claim adamu was first, very similar name with the same meaning.
only they say the sky people created him to do there mining, a slave.

 

[Pegg]

what about the summerians who claim adamu was first, very similar name with the same meaning.
only they say the sky people created him to do there mining, a slave.

all true stories morph over time.

 

[payak]

the summerians were before not after.
so it seems chritianity adopted there story not vice verca

 

[Pegg]

the summerians were before not after.
so it seems chritianity adopted there story not vice verca

the Sumerians were descendants of Noah's sons. They all tell the same story in a different ways. The hebrews came from Shem (hence Semites) and they maintained the story as it truthfully happened because they remained obedient to God....all the others added to the story and changed the characters because they had rebelled from God.

but you know, there is nothing new under the sun. There is only a retelling of the same story in a multitude of different ways.

 

[mohammed_beiruti]

what about the summerians who claim adamu was first, very similar name with the same meaning.
only they say the sky people created him to do there mining, a slave.

Please, don't change the subject.

we are talking about marry's pregnancy.

why should someone discuss "genes" and how imposible for a Woman to have pregnancy without genatic process , and at the same time he forget the creation of Adam/first human on earth.

Adam was created from dust.

Allah can create what he will.

it is a miracle.

 

[payak]

can i ask why he needed dust at all to create man, and why he needed a rib to create eve

 

[mohammed_beiruti]

can i ask why he needed dust at all to create man, and why he needed a rib to create eve

Allah do not need.

creation needs.

 

[payak]

ok, so why use dust and a rib, dust for one, a rib for the other.
why change methods.
why use anything,

 

[Pegg]

can i ask why he needed dust at all to create man, and why he needed a rib to create eve

all the elements of the earth are found in us....God produced a being who would have a connection with the earth the way no spirit creature (angel) could. our purpose on this earth requires that we feel we are a part of it...and we are.

Same with the woman. God could have created a woman from the dust, but instead he chose to create her from the man so that the man and woman would feel they are a part of each other. They can truly become one when they see each other as one. and this is necessary because the woman was created in Gods image too...she has the feminine qualities of God while the man has the masculine qualities of God. When you put the two together you get the complete image of God. But you only get that complete image if the man and woman become 'one' and so by creating the woman from the mans rib, they could feel close to each other as a part of each other.

 

[terryboy]

and this is necessary because the woman was created in Gods image too...she has the feminine qualities of God while the man has the masculine qualities of God. When you put the two together you get the complete image of God. But you only get that complete image if the man and woman become 'one' and so by creating the woman from the mans rib, they could feel close to each other as a part of each other.

So God has a weeny and boobs, if that's what you mean. God is hermaphrodite

 

[Pegg]

So God has a weeny and boobs, if that's what you mean. God is hermaphrodite

masculine and feminine qualities have nothing to do with our sexuality.

These qualities are found in the way we think...not in the way we procreate.

 

[waitasec]

Allah do not need.

creation needs.

but allah needed dust and a rib

 

[terryboy]

masculine and feminine qualities have nothing to do with our sexuality.

These qualities are found in the way we think...not in the way we procreate.

I disagree, I can be a man and think like a woman, you can be a woman but think like a man.

There's no such thing as masculine / feminine thinking, unless you're talking about sex, and even that is arguable.

 

[payak]

my good friend aaron who is black is a man, you will never get him to part with a rib.
dont be offended anyone we joke with each other all the time.

 

[mohammed_beiruti]

but allah needed dust and a rib

creation needed.