Men boxing women??- Int'l boxing organization starting transgender league over 'safety' concerns

[Aštra’el]

Wow, all the stupid, offensive **** said in this thread isn't even worth the energy it takes to read it.

I think that there is a halfway point that might be worth considering. I have been neither bigoted or hateful in my responses to this topic. I have also not expressed views for the sake of appearing “woke” and “inclusive”.

I have acknowledged that sex and gender are two different things. I have also acknowledged that sex is immutable. You can be whatever gender you feel you are, but your sex is something that can not be changed. The way I see it… most of the time, it does not matter. Your business is your own. In sports, it does matter… because it is affecting the lives, culture, safety, and opportunities of countless female athletes past and present.

Is that really such an offensive perspective?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I think that there is a halfway point that might be worth considering. I have been neither bigoted or hateful in my responses to this topic. I have also not expressed views for the sake of appearing “woke” and “inclusive”.

I have acknowledged that sex and gender are two different things. I have also acknowledged that sex is immutable. You can be whatever gender you feel you are, but your sex is something that can not be changed. The way I see it… most of the time, it does not matter. Your business is your own. In sports, it does matter… because it is affecting the lives, culture, safety, and opportunities of countless female athletes past and present.

Is that really such an offensive perspective?

No, I wasn't thinking of your posts.

 

[Brian2]

Would you legally require this "woman" (Chaz Bono)
to use the same bathroom as young girls?

Would you legally require Laverne Cox to use the
same public lavatories as other "men"?

I see a big problem with defining sex as what's
assigned at birth without considering subsequent
changes. And of course, what should be done
with intersex people, who could appear either
way, but are wrongly assigned at birth?

How do the Bible, Koran, & Torah address
these complexities?

We get general principles, the basic being love for all people, and we are to work out the complexities on that.

 

[Brian2]

To the contrary.

This reminds me of my personal Jack London favorite book, White Fang. The protagonist is a dog/wolf hybrid named, appropriately, White Fang. White Fang was bought from Native Americans (called First Nations in Canada) by a person who used the dog as a fighter, "Beauty" Smith. White Fang was "deputized" to fight with just about every dog or wolf that could be found. The dog put in to fight him was invariably ripped to piece, to the wild cheering of drunken crowds. Finally a bulldog was launched into the pen, who grabbed White Fang's throat. When White Fang was almost throttled and near death, a decent citizen, Weedon Scott and his assistant Matt. come to the rescue.

When Weedon Scott forcibly separates the bulldog that is throttling a wolf-dog named "White Fang" Mr. Smith says, "I've got my rights....That dog is mint (sic)," to which Mr. Scott replies "Correct....A man's got his rights. But you're not a man, You're a beast." They then kicked the offending fight artist and sent the fight promoter sprawling, and then separated the animals and nursed White Fang back to health.While it was a childhood or young adult novel it illustrates what people should do. Allowing a fight between a male who considers himself a female, and a female, is not what people should do.

OK thanks, I was confused in the OP as to what you thought about it.

 

[Revoltingest]

We get general principles, the basic being love for all people, and we are to work out the complexities on that.

Love for all people?
Not for me.

 

[Brian2]

Love for all people?
Not for me.

Yes, love for even the most revolting.