Merkel's era is over

[Augustus]

Then they are fools.

Why would someone be a fool for celebrating the exit of a foreign politician who was, arguably, harmful to their country in a manner that undermined their democratic institutions to protect the interest of Germany? (GFC/Eurozone crisis re Italy, Greece etc)

Even if you disagree, there is certainly a very reasonable case to be made about the long term harms caused.

 

[ChristineM]

Example?

Angela Merkel Didn't Just Save Europe. She Also Made It More Resilient

Auf Wiedersehen, Angela: How Merkel has shaped Europe and Germany

 

[Estro Felino]

Why would someone be a fool for celebrating the exit of a foreign politician who was, arguably, harmful to their country in a manner that undermined their democratic institutions to protect the interest of Germany? (GFC/Eurozone crisis re Italy, Greece etc)

Even if you disagree, there is certainly a very reasonable case to be made about the long term harms caused.

Thank you @Augustus.
I really appreciate it.

 

[Kooky]

In Italy there will be a shortage of champagne today....
So many people celebrating

Italian fascists wooping over a red-green-liberal coalition, who would have thought it possible.

 

[Kooky]

Why would someone be a fool for celebrating the exit of a foreign politician who was, arguably, harmful to their country in a manner that undermined their democratic institutions to protect the interest of Germany? (GFC/Eurozone crisis re Italy, Greece etc)

Even if you disagree, there is certainly a very reasonable case to be made about the long term harms caused.

In what way was Angela Merkel personally harmful to Italy?

Please cite your sources if you have any.

 

[Estro Felino]

Angela Merkel Didn't Just Save Europe. She Also Made It More Resilient

Auf Wiedersehen, Angela: How Merkel has shaped Europe and Germany

It deals with articles which speak of very negative changes sold as positive ones.

Resilience is a positive thing?
At will employment is a positive thing?
Limited term employment is a positive thing?

No. I dream of a EU where any country even the tiniest one is respected and helped.
We have very good relations with Albania.
Albania can never enter in a very cold merciless EU.
We speak the language of the heart, when it deals with Europe.

 

[Estro Felino]

Italian fascists wooping over a red-green-liberal coalition, who would have thought it possible.

The majority ...since Giorgia Meloni is the most voted leader, right now .

 

[exchemist]

Why would someone be a fool for celebrating the exit of a foreign politician who was, arguably, harmful to their country in a manner that undermined their democratic institutions to protect the interest of Germany? (GFC/Eurozone crisis re Italy, Greece etc)

Even if you disagree, there is certainly a very reasonable case to be made about the long term harms caused.

Italy's problems stem from their own immature political decisions, exhibit A being Berlusconi. Does Draghi think Merkel was responsible for Italy's poor economic performance, glacial legal processes and widespread corruption? I bet he doesn't.

 

[Kooky]

The majority ...since Giorgia Meloni is the most voted leader, right now .

Fascists in Italy still aren't a majority, thank the gods.

 

[Estro Felino]

In what way was Angela Merkel personally harmful to Italy?

Please cite your sources if you have any.

You will have to translate it into English
Merkel promuove Renzi: 'Jobs act passo avanti importante'

Jobs act has been an insult to our Labor legislation.
As for Greece, I remind you that Italians and Greeks are one thing, so Italians hate whoever harms the Greeks.
And certain dragons too harmed Greece.

 

[Estro Felino]

Fascists in Italy still aren't a majority, thank the gods.

Meloni is to become the new Prime Minister.

 

[Kooky]

You will have to translate it into Emglish
Merkel promuove Renzi: 'Jobs act passo avanti importante'

Jobs act has been an insult to our Labor legislation.

So you're blaming Merkel for Renzi's policies. Who else is in on this conspiracy, the communists, the Jews, the Illuminati...?

As for Greece, I remind you that Italians and Greeks are one thing, so Italians hate whoever harms the Greeks.
And certain dragons too harmed Greece.

Italians never gave a flying fuggeddaboutit about Greece.

 

[Estro Felino]

Italy problems stem from their own immature political decisions, exhibit A being Berlusconi. Does Draghi think Merkel was responsible for Italy's poor economic performance, glacial legal processes and widespread corruption? I bet he doesn't.

There are greedy bankers and there are politicians who are bribed by greedy bankers.
A team.

 

[Kooky]

Meloni is to become the new Prime Minister.

Last time I checked, there's at least a national election between her and any political office, unless she marches on Rome at the top of an armed mob like your beloved Duce did.

 

[Estro Felino]

Italians never gave a flying fuggeddaboutit about Greece.

With all due respect, you don't speak Italian.
You have no idea of what Italians think.
We have lent money to Greece.

If the miracle happens, Greece will be liberated by Eurocracy.

 

[Kooky]

There are greedy bankers and there are politicians who are bribed by grredy bankers.
A team.

So Merkel is a greedy banker too, on top of a hypnotist who manipulated Renzi into passing all these policies you disapprove of?

 

[Kooky]

With all due respect, you don't speak Italian.
You have no idea of what Italians think.

Ah yes, the good old "you are a foreign devil, you don't understand my mysterious people" argument.
In case you forgot, I am related to several Italians, and my relatives do talk about what's going on there.
But of course, none of them are fascists.

We have lent money to Greece.

You personally lent money to the Greek government? How?

 

[Nimos]

Merkel's era is over.
16 years.
16 years of great changes for Europe.
In a germanocratic EU.
What are your impressions?

From what little knowledge I have about her. I would say that she always seemed to be a very competent in regards to politics, I liked her.

 

[Estro Felino]

So Merkel is a greedy banker too, on top of a hypnotist who manipulated Renzi into passing all these policies you disapprove of?

There is the Emperor (ECB)
Then there are vassals, and then there are vavasours.

 

[Augustus]

In what way was Angela Merkel personally harmful to Italy?

Please cite your sources if you have any.

It was mentioned in the post: the response to the Eurozone crisis that favoured protecting the Euro (and banks and Germany) over protecting people in countries like Greece, Italy etc. Merkel was hardly a passive observer in the process.

As a solid left-winger surely you can't side with largely futile austerity to protect the wealthy, correct?

Analysis: Merkel's Italian ally at the ECB