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Mexican cartels and Trumps wall

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Aye, things will become increasingly interesting.
Especially if government believes increasing its power is the solution to all problems.

Whilst I don't always agree with your small government approach, in this case I do.
Now I feel dirty.

;)

We seem to be buying into the illusion of control.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Nothing maybe a better choice ?, gee the drug dealers and all the rest would love you to be president.

I seriously doubt they would.
I only suggested that 'nothing' was better than 'something' where something represented an ineffective use of finite resources.

For example, I might invest a small portion of money in increasing accountability of border officers, and trying to curb corruption.
I might invest some time and effort into some form of legalisation of at least certain drugs.

These are NOT programs which would help the Cartel.

They are used to dealing with Walls, and making one bigger is unlikely to be a massive surprise to their tactical planning.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Next you'll be wearing Hawaiian shirts.

Hey, I seem to recall you liked some Mamba stuff, and that's an Aussie brand, so...yeah...
Maybe Revoltingstan and Lewisland can have some sort of trade agreement. I send you Hawaiian shirts and you send me buckets and buckets of unrefined frubals. I promise not to turn them into WMDs. Well, sorta promise.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Unless it is already too late, I would say the only effective solution is legalization, decriminalization, and government control on our side of the issue, and perhaps a joint agreement between the US and Mexico for legalization. But one thing: there are thousands and thousands of small farmers throughout South America who depend on the income from the coca plant for their livelihood and survival. Plus there are thousand and thousands of home-grown small time street dealers on this side making tidy profits to feed their families. At least with legalization, a heroin addict can go to a government clinic without fear and get treated and not rely on criminal activity to buy his drug.
Well that is certainly different, but I feel that legalizing will make it even worse, for the price of drugs would go right down and so everyone can afford, mmm, I don't think it would work myself ?.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Hey, I seem to recall you liked some Mamba stuff, and that's an Aussie brand, so...yeah...
Maybe Revoltingstan and Lewisland can have some sort of trade agreement. I send you Hawaiian shirts and you send me buckets and buckets of unrefined frubals. I promise not to turn them into WMDs. Well, sorta promise.
A real Aussi wouldn't mis-spell "Mambo"!
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I seriously doubt they would.
I only suggested that 'nothing' was better than 'something' where something represented an ineffective use of finite resources.

For example, I might invest a small portion of money in increasing accountability of border officers, and trying to curb corruption.
I might invest some time and effort into some form of legalisation of at least certain drugs.

These are NOT programs which would help the Cartel.

They are used to dealing with Walls, and making one bigger is unlikely to be a massive surprise to their tactical planning.
Yes, it certainly is big problem.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
A real Aussi wouldn't mis-spell "Mambo"!

Meh, I blame basketball. And yes, that's kinda obscure, but I type disparaging remarks about Kobe Bryant WAY more often than I try to type an Aussie brand that has slowly drifted out of the 'trendy' and into the 'department store'.

Offer still stands though. Mambo for frubies. And I sorta promise not to build WMDs. And I almost certainly won't use them on the Kurds.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Meh, I blame basketball. And yes, that's kinda obscure, but I type disparaging remarks about Kobe Bryant WAY more often than I try to type an Aussie brand that has slowly drifted out of the 'trendy' and into the 'department store'.

Offer still stands though. Mambo for frubies. And I sorta promise not to build WMDs. And I almost certainly won't use them on the Kurds.
I've read that Mambo has abandoned the bizarre shirts I like for ordinary graphic tees targeting young whippershappers.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I've read that Mambo has abandoned the bizarre shirts I like for ordinary graphic tees targeting young whippershappers.

Yes. Still favour bright colours, but their target market is a bit more of the 'Mums who grew up when Mambo was a trendsetter and now have 8 year olds'.

I'm overstating for effect a little, but it's kinda true.

Also, I'm thinking a real old grouch would spell 'whipper-snapper' more correctly.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
If this wall is built, I can see the Cartels digging some tunnels to be used by those who can afford the toll for a fairly safe and easy way to America. They already have drug tunnels, what's a few more tunnels to rake in even more money?

There so many ways to get around a wall that is not monitored.

I seriously can't believe people believe this junk. I can't believe people are willing to spend 25 billion on a wall without any studies and predictions of the effectiveness. This seriously blows my mind.

Now I'm reading that professional architects do not support this wall, that 25 billion will not be enough due to the more difficult portions of the wall that covers hills and mountains.

Trump's $25 billion wall would be nearly impossible to build, according to architects

It's not that we can't spend 25 billion either. Like the ACA repeal, we don't have specifics on how anything will be improved. It's like a shot in the dark and we hope things will work out.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
It's like a shot in the dark and we hope things will work out.

The fact that such an idea is even being seriously considered points to some deeper problem, and one of them is our generally exploitive relationship with Mexico. IOW, the problem has become so exacerbated that it has come to this crazy notion of having to build a wall. Unfortunately, we have neglected the issues for such a long time that now illegal immigration is married to the importation of drugs from Mexico, and maybe the only way to extricate the one from the other is via legalization on the one hand, and a real immigrant labor program that is of benefit to both the Mexican and to the US on the other. One thought along these lines is to create, via an agreement with Mexico, a neutral zone along the border where American factories can be built, and both Mexican and American workers can participate. The bottom line is that what you want is a positive and trusting relationship with your next door neighbor, and a lot of that means that the current negativity surrounding race must come to an end. I would say that our current relationship with Mexico is very poor indeed. Race, exploitation, drugs, and the immigration issue are all part of it.
 

habiru

Active Member
How stupid that is.
he does a lots of stupid stuff.

El Chapo sent steamy texts to Mexican actress

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godnotgod

Thou art That
I can imagine some future where things will get so bad, that a wall will look like child's play, and some senator will propose an impenetrable bubble over the entire country to keep out missiles, drugs, smog, radioactive fallout, etc, while keeping our citizens safe and warm. This will happen when a rash of illegals fabricated homemade rockets jetpacks and shot themselves several miles over the border with a backpack of drugs worth several million dollars on NY city streets.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I can imagine some future where things will get so bad, that a wall will look like child's play, and some senator will propose an impenetrable bubble over the entire country to keep out missiles, drugs, smog, radioactive fallout, etc, while keeping our citizens safe and warm.
That sounds like no less than a dozen dozen boos I have read and movies I have watched. Sad that we call it fiction, but every day it seems more and more like non-fiction.
 
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