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Mexican cartels and Trumps wall

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Why are you grouping the illegals with criminality? Some 'illegals' have been here for decades, have established legal businesses and families. They are good citizens and assets to our country. Do we send them back too?
No, but you have to start from somewhere, and I hope Trump will start that, send back all those who are parasites on society and all those who are arrested for crime, instead of costing tax payers money to keep them in prison.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
No, but you have to start from somewhere, and I hope Trump will start that, send back all those who are parasites on society and all those who are arrested for crime, instead of costing tax payers money to keep them in prison.

There are far more parasites who are Americans making and selling drugs here in the US than illegals who are involved in criminal activity. Where do we send them?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
There are far more parasites who are Americans making and selling drugs here in the US than illegals who are involved in criminal activity. Where do we send them?
Look, I know it is a hard question and I don't really think that anyone was all the answers, but they are breaking the law, do you just continue letting them come in the country ?.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
Look, I know it is a hard question and I don't really think that anyone was all the answers, but they are breaking the law, do you just continue letting them come in the country ?.

The US is the cause, don't you understand? We are ruining their economy, creating neighborhood thugs, driving people out of business, causing unemployment in many South American countries. So where do they go? The US. You don't have any answers, but to 'build a wall' as if that is going to solve the problem. The demand is here. What will you do about it?

 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
The US is the cause, don't you understand? We are ruining their economy, creating neighborhood thugs, driving people out of business, causing unemployment in many South American countries. So where do they go? The US. You don't have any answers, but to 'build a wall' as if that is going to solve the problem. The demand is here. What will you do about it?

That is what I just said, what do you do about it, a wall isn't the answer but its a start.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
Look, I know it is a hard question and I don't really think that anyone was all the answers, but they are breaking the law, do you just continue letting them come in the country ?.

Do you just let the Americans continue making and distributing illegal homemade and dangerous street drugs?

This is a relatively new development. What do you suppose is the cause? If you can get to the cause, then therein lies the solution, right?

The average undocumented worker only wants to work for a living. Some bring drugs, but the majority are looking for work.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Do you just let the Americans continue making and distributing illegal homemade and dangerous street drugs?

This is a relatively new development. What do you suppose is the cause? If you can get to the cause, then therein lies the solution, right?

The average undocumented worker only wants to work for a living. Some bring drugs, but the majority are looking for work.
And that is good, but as I say over and over, do it legally, like it or not there is a lot of trash coming over the boarder, and yes there is already trash in the US, but why add to that trash ?.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
And that is good, but as I say over and over, do it legally, like it or not there is a lot of trash coming over the boarder, and yes there is already trash in the US, but why add to that trash ?.

We already have a tight border with many sensors and cameras and standardized immigration procedures for any alien to become a citizen. What will a wall accomplish over and above what we already have in place?

Most are not trash, and are just folks who want to work. Why not spend the money on a comprehensive immigrant labor program?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
We already have a tight border with many sensors and cameras and standardized immigration procedures for any alien to become a citizen. What will a wall accomplish over and above what we already have in place?

Most are not trash, and are just folks who want to work. Why not spend the money on a comprehensive immigrant labor program?
Well that can be something to think about, but as long as jobs are not taken from Americans, jobs they like or don't like, something certainty needs to be done.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
We already have a tight border with many sensors and cameras and standardized immigration procedures for any alien to become a citizen. What will a wall accomplish over and above what we already have in place?

Most are not trash, and are just folks who want to work. Why not spend the money on a comprehensive immigrant labor program?

I suspect you are already well aware of this, but the wall is basically a symbol for action. People want 'something' done, and a very large, visible, physical item that makes 'common sense' is a nod to this.
Asking people who support this symbol as a literal method of dealing to the issue are possibly not going to often accept that the issue is harder to think about meaningfully. To them it will sound like you're advocating NOT taking action.

Frustrating, I know.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Suggesting a wall to stop illegal immigrants is one thing. Suggesting a wall will stop illegal drugs that makes millions of dollars for criminal organizations is absurd.
If this wall is built, I can see the Cartels digging some tunnels to be used by those who can afford the toll for a fairly safe and easy way to America. They already have drug tunnels, what's a few more tunnels to rake in even more money?
 
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