Mickiel's proof of God.

[mickiel]

Yes, two opposites do prove one another's' existence. But you are taking that example out of the world of experience and saying 'all worlds (God) must be as this. You have no warrant whatsoever for making that assumption. 'The concept of God' is outside experience; so to say, something in this world must correlate to something beyond this world is nothing other than pure speculation. And that goes for most, if not all, of your proofs.

I have every warrant to do so, my own consciousness is the only warrant I need, I trust it more than anything. Atheist are absolute proof of Gods existence, they are thinking exactly how God programmed them to think. Their perfect proof of God. Its the classic example of Gods power charged to the negative.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

 

[cottage]

I have every warrant to do so, my own consciousness is the only warrant I need, I trust it more than anything. Atheist are absolute proof of Gods existence, they are thinking exactly how God programmed them to think. Their perfect proof of God. Its the classic example of Gods power charged to the negative.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

But your arguments are awful, in fact they are not arguments at all - and hence they are not proofs in any sense. So your posts amount to proselytizing and nothing more. Quantity isn't a substitute for quality.

 

[mickiel]

But your arguments are awful, .

No, no, no, the way " You" perceive them are awful. And why are you reading them?

Why? One of you Atheist explain to me why you are reading them?

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

People have become sarcastic because of the lack of relationship with their God. They don't know God, so they come to know sarcasm.

Peace.

This is the root cause of sarcasm, its really a reaction of satan, because he knows his condition and future. So he tears out aittitudes of destruction, which I call " Scarcasm", a term I created. Communication meant to tear and disrupt.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

 

[cottage]

No, no, no, the way " You" perceive them are awful. And why are you reading them?

Why? One of you Atheist explain to me why you are reading them?

Peace.

Because argument (even pseudo arguments) and verbal reasoning is among my interests. Religion is only one tiny part of this. But in your blind, bigoted obsession with atheists you assume that anyone who responds negatively to your muddled posts is automatically anti-God.

 

[Amill]

I disagree with this, and affirm that it was God who constructed the human consciousness. Conversely, it is God who blinds the human consciousness from seeing him. This is why those who do not believe in God, will never believe in God, because its Gods own power blinding them, and only God can release their consciousness.

Thats why its utter foolishness to try to convince anyone of God, goodness, doing that would be against Gods own will, its him blinding them.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

Then why do you post proof topics in a debate forums? And you've mentioned plenty of times that you're trying to plant some "seed" into our consciousness, but now you just said that it is impossible to convince us of anything.

If you post something as proof in a debate forum, you are going to debate against people who don't see these things as proof. You have failed to back up any assertion, all you can do is repeat "consciousness is proof of god because god made it" kind of arguments. Did you honestly think that this would be a sufficient argument in a DEBATE forum? You really don't know how to debate, and now that you've said it's impossible for you to ever convince anybody, I guess we can assume that these topics are completely pointless.

 

[mickiel]

Because argument (even pseudo arguments) and verbal reasoning is among my interests. Religion is only one tiny part of this. But in your blind, bigoted obsession with atheists you assume that anyone who responds negatively to your muddled posts is automatically anti-God.

Bigoted, perhaps, obsession, yes I am after the whole false concept of being Atheist, but blind, no buddy, I see right through you.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Then why do you post proof topics in a debate forums? And you've mentioned plenty of times that you're trying to plant some "seed" into our consciousness, but now you just said that it is impossible to convince us of anything.

If you post something as proof in a debate forum, you are going to debate against people who don't see these things as proof. You have failed to back up any assertion, all you can do is repeat "consciousness is proof of god because god made it" kind of arguments. Did you honestly think that this would be a sufficient argument in a DEBATE forum? You really don't know how to debate, and now that you've said it's impossible for you to ever convince anybody, I guess we can assume that these topics are completely pointless.

I am not trying to convince. And I do not fail in my points, they are only pointless to you, thus, they are not for you. I suggest you ignore people you view as failures.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

If pain comes before and during experience, the experience is never forgotten.

Peace.

The pain in humanity is very well ordered. The suffering has been like a giant tidal wave that has swooped over humanity and kept us all underwater. Its got to have come from a God who Ordered it, its just too powerful. Unescapable and dominant -- when we see these two qualitys in affecting humanity, I always suspect God.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Romance, yet another proof of God. Impossible to have evolved, you can't taste or touch it, but we know it exist. Humans do it, experience it, need it. Science has nothing to do with it, and its force is stronger than science.

Peace.

Romance, perhaps one of the strongest forces planted within our consciousness. It makes us cry, it keeps us from sleeping, it makes our population grow, it causes us to fight and kill, it produces some of our greatest moments in life.

Man don't you know and understand thats proof of a higher power that we cannot see. Romance has God written all over it.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Answered Prayer, yet another proof of God. And its not limited to just a few people confirming this, millions of people have confirmed this, millions, and all through out human history it has happened. Just an obvious, numerically proven proof of God.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Consciousness, yet another proof of God.

Cavemen didnot have consciousness, they were hunter-gatherers. When we see a historic change from people being hunter gathering types of living, to a food producing economy by the domestication of plants and animals, these are conscious steps that created civilization. God is again the key here, it was he who instilled consciousness into humanity.

And I want to dig deeper into that.

Peace.

 

[Amill]

I am not trying to convince. And I do not fail in my points, they are only pointless to you, thus, they are not for you. I suggest you ignore people you view as failures.

Peace.

Then who are they for, in a DEBATE forum? If you're not wanting to discuss your points and proofs with people who don't see them as such, why are you in a DEBATE forum? Go post in forums where people agree with you then. doh

 

[mickiel]

Like Consciousness, Biblical Archaeology is a strong profound proof of God. And it attracts scholars from all over this world. The allure of accidental discoveries in exotic lands revives my belief in God. How we can pull things from the ground, then those things are confirmed in the bible, is just obvious proof of God.

Archaeology and history books are closely interrelated. Archaeology in fact provides the material from which books of ancient history are made. Records from Egypt, Sumer, Assyria, Babylonia and the land of the Hittites and Greece, all have risen in unique uncanny proof that substanciates the bible many times over.

And I will be going into this real undeniable proofs.

Peace.

 

[Amill]

So post some of the proof already.

 

[mickiel]

Then who are they for, in a DEBATE forum? If you're not wanting to discuss your points and proofs with people who don't see them as such, why are you in a DEBATE forum? Go post in forums where people agree with you then. doh

I will debate who I please, in the manner that I am accustomed. I discuss my points everyday with others here, I do not agree with the accusations you are trying to impress about me.

And I will post in whatever forum I so please.

Peace.

 

[MissAlice]

I don't think there's any sufficient evidence about Egyptians using Jewish slaves or there ever being a great flood or man named Moses...but I never keep up with this stuff so it would be nice to know what actually can be proven by the bible and other monotheistic faiths of god.

 

[mickiel]

I anticipate this post to be quite long and extensive, because the Archaeology is extensive. And I will, as always, keep it simple.

Jesus had two friends that the bible mentions often, Martha and Mary. Amazingly, they found the house of Martha and Mary in " Bethany." Largely intact. I have pictures of it. Throughout this post I will give " Person, Place and thing", along with geographic.

Here we have two biblical characthers, person. And we have a house, place. And we have a city, geographic, all combined to prove the validity of a biblical characther, and a biblical city. Both women knew Jesus intimitately.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

I don't think there's any sufficient evidence about Egyptians using Jewish slaves or there ever being a great flood or man named Moses...but I never keep up with this stuff so it would be nice to know what actually can be proven by the bible and other monotheistic faiths of god.

Well we have unearthed the " Tomb of Lazarus", a man Jesus raised from the dead. The bible records Lazarus in John 11: 1-44. I have pictures of the Tombs entrance. It too is in Bethany, which was on the other side of the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem. Again Location, Geographic , person and thing. All recorded in the bible, and we have this mans actual tomb.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

The "Garden of Gethsemane" is where Jesus prayed and was later betrayed by Judas, Matt. 26:36-50. Archaeologist have found this great biblical site, I have pictures of it. Again we have Geographic, place, and thing, the actual garden itself. The Person is Jesus, who prayed at the place. So the place confirms the person, and both give validity to the bibles historical accuracy.

Peace.