Mickiel's proof of God.

[richardlowellt]

I hold no intrest in evolution, it means absolutely nothing to me.

Even though you don't care, this attitude is called willful ignorance. We would all still be living in caves and clubbing our dinner if humans adopted your ignorant attitude.

Humans did not " Become " to look as we now do, we were created to look exactly as we do. There was no evolving of human features, no human feature has ever evolved. We look like we have always looked.

This addresses my question to you which you never answered. You were the one who mentioned neanderthals not being civilized, so you apparently know there were in fact neanderthals, my question to you is, did neanderthals look as we do now, having the same features?

Only an evolutionist believes in evolving human features. Its the most worthless theory I have ever known about.

Are you somehow unable to read? Do you purposely avoid any books dealing with anthropology? Have you ever been to a science museum?

First, matter evolved from absolutely nothing.

See how little you know of the subject you are refuting, evolution has NOTHING to do with creating matter.

Then other matter evolved and these formed into giant rocks which one day collided. One of these residue rocks developed chemicals. From these chemicals formed life cells, which formed itself into a tadpole, which one day crawled out of the water and eventually formed itself into an walking animal, which eventually formed itself into a monkey, which eventually formed itself into a human. Its the most incredible nonsense which has ever existed. Why should I be interested in nonsense?

You should not be interested in this nonsense because thats exactly what you have posted, complete nonsense. Evolution does not deal with ROCKS. "residue rocks developed chemicals" what on Earth are you talking about? You really need to stop posting such uneducated dribble, if you don't want to learn about how evolution works thats your business, but don't embarrass yourself with these ridiculous posts.

 

[mickiel]

You should not be interested in this nonsense because thats exactly what you have posted, complete nonsense. Evolution does not deal with ROCKS. "residue rocks developed chemicals" what on Earth are you talking about? You really need to stop posting such uneducated dribble, if you don't want to learn about how evolution works thats your business, but don't embarrass yourself with these ridiculous posts.

If I may ask you a very serious question, why are you reading and responding to these ridiculous post? Why do you keep talking to me if I am an embarassment? Why do you keep dwelling in the dribble?

And then answer me this, why are others reading it also?

Peace.

 

[richardlowellt]

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QUOTE=mickiel;1704639]If I may ask you a very serious question, why are you reading and responding to these ridiculous post? Why do you keep talking to me if I am an embarassment? Why do you keep dwelling in the dribble?

And then answer me this, why are others reading it also?

Maybe it's pity!! Maybe it's because we don't like to see anyone totally embarrass themselves, maybe it's disbelief that this degree of willful ignorance exists, maybe it's because this is a debate site were interaction between opposing views is suppose to be what happens, maybe it's because those opposing views are best dealt with through conversation, maybe its because people are interested in those views presented with some rationale.

I would still like to hear your answer to my Neanderthal question, did they appear as we now appear as far as physical features are concerned?

 

[mickiel]

[Maybe it's pity!! Maybe it's because we don't like to see anyone totally embarrass themselves, maybe it's disbelief that this degree of willful ignorance exists, maybe it's because this is a debate site were interaction between opposing views is suppose to be what happens, maybe it's because those opposing views are best dealt with through conversation, maybe its because people are interested in those views presented with some rationale.

I would still like to hear your answer to my Neanderthal question, did they appear as we now appear as far as physical features are concerned?

Well since you have all these personal insults to sling at me, why don't you just " Spare my Ignorance" and ask someonelse your questions? Why don't you stop assisting my embarassment? Why not talk to someone who has sense?

Why are you wasting your time talking to an embarassment?

I don't understand that. Why not converse with qualified people, I don't need your pity.

Peace.

 

[richardlowellt]

Well since you have all these personal insults to sling at me, why don't you just " Spare my Ignorance" and ask someonelse your questions? Why don't you stop assisting my embarassment? Why not talk to someone who has sense?

Why are you wasting your time talking to an embarassment?

I don't understand that. Why not converse with qualified people, I don't need your pity.

From this I gather you are unable to answer my question about Neanderthal man. I would ask someone else that question but I have found no one else who proposes we have always appeared the way we now do. Most people I talk to KNOW how evolution works, even if they don't believe it, they know how it is suppose to work. Qualified people? do you mean anyone with a high school education?

 

[mickiel]

From

. Qualified people? do you mean anyone with a high school education?

No, just anyone other than me. I enjoy conversation, but when someone continually insults me, I grow tired of talking to them.

Anyhow, may your life go well.

Peace.

 

[richardlowellt]

No, just anyone other than me. I enjoy conversation, but when someone continually insults me, I grow tired of talking to them.

I didn't realize I was insulting you. If I told you that all fish looked exactly alike, what would you say to me? If I refused to believe that all fish looked different, what would you think? I think you would say that I was willfully ignorant, in that I would not even make an attempt to learn if my position on all fish looking alike was true. My refusal to even learn if my premise was true might even be called uneducated, no insult, just a simple fact.

 

[mickiel]

Its really sad when people now don't even realize they are insulting you.

Romance is just another proof of God, it reveals the Artistry of his Love. God is Love, Romance is a flirtation with Love, so Romance is evidence that Love could be there.

And its evidence that God could be there.

Peace.

 

[Tiberius]

So what about romantic love between two gay people?

And why does romantic love prove your already conceived ideas of God? Why doesn't romantic love prove the Invisible Pink Unicorn?

 

[mickiel]

So what about romantic love between two gay people?

And why does romantic love prove your already conceived ideas of God? Why doesn't romantic love prove the Invisible Pink Unicorn?

I suggest you read the entire post. The sexual orentation of a person, or their style of lust has nothing to do with Romance. Romance is a proof to me of God. But listen, Atheism is also a proof to me of God. Your way of life, your thinking, proves to me that God exist.

And its nothing better than an Atheist, to get you to flex your muscles of Belief.

Peace.

 

[richardlowellt]

Its really sad when people now don't even realize they are insulting you.

Romance is just another proof of God, it reveals the Artistry of his Love. God is Love, Romance is a flirtation with Love, so Romance is evidence that Love could be there.

And its evidence that God could be there.

Maybe their NOT insulting you, only pointing out the truth and you perceive it as an insult. The question you refuse to answer is a good example. Your lack of knowledge about what evolution is another example. You come to this site, make absurd statements and then call it insulting when people challenge you. At least present your argument backed by a little knowledge, otherwise its pointless, all your doing at that point is preaching!!!

Romance is the instinct to reproduce tied up in pretty pink bows. If you god is true, which I know he's not, then he is anything but love. You simply do not murder someone you love, you don't condemn someone you love to an eternity of slow roasting because they might anger you. Logic tells us that a loving god would not do those things so the only conclusions a reasonable person can draw is that no such entity exists.

 

[mickiel]

Maybe their NOT insulting you, only pointing out the truth and you perceive it as an insult. The question you refuse to answer is a good example. Your lack of knowledge about what evolution is another example. You come to this site, make absurd statements and then call it insulting when people challenge you. At least present your argument backed by a little knowledge, otherwise its pointless, all your doing at that point is preaching!!!

Romance is the instinct to reproduce tied up in pretty pink bows. If you god is true, which I know he's not, then he is anything but love. You simply do not murder someone you love, you don't condemn someone you love to an eternity of slow roasting because they might anger you. Logic tells us that a loving god would not do those things so the only conclusions a reasonable person can draw is that no such entity exists.

I accept all challanges, but insults are when you demean anothers characther, call them silly names and other arrogant comments about their personage. The God I believe in willnot roast humans for eternity, you confuse my beliefs and combine them with christians. I am not christian, and do not agree with their beliefs. I do not worship their God. I have gotten to the point of refusing to answer you, because OF you, not anything about me. If you wish to continue dialog with me, then you will stop the petty insults, and show some respect, or I willnot continue with you.

If your desire is truly to converse with me, these are the conditions you must follow, and I do not ask them from you, if I myself willnot offer to you the same respect.

Peace.

 

[Tiberius]

I suggest you read the entire post. The sexual orentation of a person, or their style of lust has nothing to do with Romance. Romance is a proof to me of God. But listen, Atheism is also a proof to me of God. Your way of life, your thinking, proves to me that God exist.

And its nothing better than an Atheist, to get you to flex your muscles of Belief.

Peace.

First of all, what entire post? I wasn't responding to a specific post, rather, the thread title which states that romantic love is proof of God.

And are you saying that gay people can't experience romance?

And how is atheism a proof of God? It's all well and good for you to make these claims, but if you want people to agree with you, you'll have to explain why your claims are correct. You haven't done that yet. You've just made claims based on nothing but your personal opinion and dismissed things you don't like. Choosing only things you like and ignoring things you don't isn't a very good way to find an objective truth.

 

[mickiel]

First of all, what entire post? I wasn't responding to a specific post, rather, the thread title which states that romantic love is proof of God.

And are you saying that gay people can't experience romance?

And how is atheism a proof of God? It's all well and good for you to make these claims, but if you want people to agree with you, you'll have to explain why your claims are correct. You haven't done that yet. You've just made claims based on nothing but your personal opinion and dismissed things you don't like. Choosing only things you like and ignoring things you don't isn't a very good way to find an objective truth.

I have never stated in my life that gays cannot experience Romance, you are simply suggesting that I have, because your trying to find a hole in my conversation. A hole that you can pounce on and attack. Because that is your intent. But it is not mine. I do not want people to agree with me, thats just another hole in your attack, I have continually stated that I am not after agreement, you just think I am. It is your attitude of doing these things that proves to me God exist, because its the oppisition that proves the war. The war exist, because God exist, and there exist the oppisition to God. The stronger the oppisition, the stronger my belief.

You simply do not understand this, because your strength is to oppose, which fuels my Strength.

Peace.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

The war exist, because God exist, and there exist the oppisition to God. The stronger the oppisition, the stronger my belief.

No No NO :no:

You've got it wrong, there is no god because you say there is, your opposition proves that god doesn't exist.

It's alright, it's a simple mistake.

-Q

 

[Tiberius]

I have never stated in my life that gays cannot experience Romance, you are simply suggesting that I have, because your trying to find a hole in my conversation. A hole that you can pounce on and attack. Because that is your intent. But it is not mine.

No, I was simply requesting clarification. If I was attacking, I would have not have asked. I do have to wonder why you see everything as an attack though.

It is your attitude of doing these things that proves to me God exist, because its the oppisition that proves the war. The war exist, because God exist, and there exist the oppisition to God. The stronger the oppisition, the stronger my belief.

You believe only because there are some who disagree? An interesting way of determining what is true, I'll admit.

You simply do not understand this, because your strength is to oppose, which fuels my Strength.

Peace.

I still would like to understand the logic of how romance proves God. How have you eliminated all other possibilities?

 

[richardlowellt]

I accept all challanges,

No, you refuse to answer the simplest of my questions.

If your desire is truly to converse with me, these are the conditions you must follow, and I do not ask them from you, if I myself willnot offer to you the same respect.

I have no desire to converse with the willfully ignorant, educate yourself on the topic you wish to present, then just maybe someone will be willing to carry on an intelligent dialog with you. I can see you are unwilling to submit to any criticism so I am done trying to have a reasonable conversation with you, endeavor to learn.

 

[mickiel]

No, you refuse to answer the simplest of my questions.

I have no desire to converse with the willfully ignorant, educate yourself on the topic you wish to present, then just maybe someone will be willing to carry on an intelligent dialog with you. I can see you are unwilling to submit to any criticism so I am done trying to have a reasonable conversation with you, endeavor to learn.

Well good, just another Atheist gone from my view, and I am left at Peace. I will not respond to you until you apoligise in respect.

Peace

 

[Tiberius]

In the meantime, Mick, I'd appreciate it if you could respond to my question.

 

[mickiel]

In the meantime, Mick, I'd appreciate it if you could respond to my question.

Well excuse me, I was distracted. Romance to me is an ingrained membraine of human cousicousness, as are many other things. The act itself, is proof to me of " Preordained behavior", a design comming from a designer , so to speak. Rather than believe that human behavior has evolved, I believe it has been designed by a designer. That designer has ingrained parts of himself into the design. I think God is defintely Romantic, he Loves, he is a being that Loves. And he wants us to be that way.

Listen Tiberius, I believe the orgin of Consciousness is God. But consciousness is a difficult thing to comprehend, and once understood somewhat, the total range of understanding it , I think has not been met, in any human mind. Romance attracts me with intrest, because it has always been in me. Its a definte influence in my life. That teachs me things, its power, its pull.

And when I see Power in something, I have learned to suspect God is somewhere in there.

Peace.