Eliana
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I edit film and television for a living, so I don't watch very much. I mostly like documentries and biographies.
Could you give a 30.000 foot view of "Modern Orthodox" as compare to other Jewish "religious movements" and in particular the ultra Orthodox that we see in Israel these days? I mean the guys with the black hats.
I could look it up, but it would be interesting to get it from you.
I'm old (83), somewhat atheist, though I've dabbled in various religions at times, and am an ex-pat Brit living in the USA. I had a very close Jewish friend (now deceased) and have an interest in the Jewish faith.
They are slippery terms that people use as a convenient descriptor. The ultra-Orthodox and those types tend to be ridiculously pedantic about Jewish laws and very isolationist as a community. In a nutshell it means how strictly someone applies Halakha. Orthodox is Orthodox, it's just the degree of how anal someone is about the rules.
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You are an orthodox Jew but do not believe in "the devil." So, what do think of the following:
"Satan appears in the Bible, was discussed by the rabbis of the Talmud and is explored in detail in Jewish mysticism, or Kabbalah. In Hebrew, the term Satan is usually translated as “opponent” or “adversary,” and he is often understood to represent the sinful impulse (in Hebrew, yetzer hara) or, more generally, the forces that prevents human beings from submitting to divine will. He is also sometimes regarded as a heavenly prosecutor or accuser, a view given expression in the Book of Job, where Satan encourages God to test his servant."
Do Jews Believe in Satan? | My Jewish Learning
You might be surprised to learn that Satan does appear in Jewish texts, but that doesn't mean that Satan is the Jewish devil.www.myjewishlearning.com
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I don't believe in Kabbalah or have much regard for it. Lucifer, the devil and so on are Christian terms used in Christian theology. Satan, or HaSatan is a very different figure in Judaism and is not a very important one either. We don't believe in fallen angels and Satan is simply one of G-d's agents. The Satan as portrayed in Christianity is so vastly different that I feel it important to draw a clear distinction.
Too late.
I believe what I believe and I would never follow a "rule" that I have to accept a contradictory theology. Jews don't preach or try to convert others but I am always up front about who and what I am, and what I'll tolerate. It's not like I plan to go into any of the sections for other religions anyway.
I tolerate people just fine and I'm a live and let live kind of girl. Nowhere did I say anyone should be censored or outlawed, just that I personally can't stand them. It kind of cuts to the chase.
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When you say you can’t stand Christians, does that mean you can’t stand their beliefs or you can’t stand them as individuals?
No, I said I can't stand Messianic "Jews", "Jews" for Jesus, American Evangelicals and Christian Zionists. I was very specific about those particular communities. The reasons are because I don't like how Messianic and "Jews" for Jesus types attack the Jewish community and I believe they are deceptively trying to pretend to be Jewish when they are not. I don't like American evangelicals because I think they are fascist, racist, prejudiced, rageful, hypocritical and dangerous. I don't like Christian Zionists because for one I don't like Zionism to start with, and I think Christian Zionists are antisemites who purposely encourage war, strife and violence against Jews in order to satisfy their apocalyptic beliefs.
The majority of Ireland is still Catholic. I'm not crazy about the Catholic church because of the damage they've done in Ireland in terms of child abuse and slavery i.e. the Magdalene laundries.
See above.
It's a little more common for "modern" Orthodox, but it's still around 2% of marriages. I don't recommend interfaith marriages.
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