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Mohammad's Message vs Jesus' Message

loverOfTruth

Well-Known Member
You can repeat this over and over but it will never actually make any sense. The only way it would make sense is if we lived in a world where there was no such thing as a false prophet.

#1 A false prophet doesn't come and tell people to do all the good stuff that is mentioned in the Bible and that even Christians don't follow ...

#2 A false(illiterate) prophet cannot come up with a book of miracle (without any contradictions or mistakes) yet correcting the mistakes of the past scriptures
http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...es/129347-there-any-evidence-truth-islam.html

#3 A false prophet wouldn't fit the criterion in those prophecies
A "Paraclete" like Jesus

Biblical Prophecies on the Advent of Muhammad(pbuh)

Amazingly both of the above states that the Prophet to come will not speak from himself but God will put His words in his mouth (which is exactly what the Qur'an is verbatim word of God as revealed to Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) via angel Gabriel):
Deuteronomy 18:18 ... I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him...
John 16:13... He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come...
 
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InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
You are comparing the hadith with the words of god.
Yes many hadith were corrupted and were also false because that was recorded long after Mohammed PBUH death.

That is irrelevant to the holy books which should be pure with no errors.
No I am not comparing Hadith with Words of God.
The Bible never says it is the Words of God.
It say, it is inspired by God.
The True Hadithes that actually Muhammad had said are also inspired by God.

But you did not really reply to my question. I asked you, just because a Hadith is found to be corrupted, that does not make all the Hadithes false.
So, your reasoning makes no sense.

You are the one to say that the meaning only changed by interpretting both books,so you are acting as scholar to correct muslims,christians and jews and that is refused by the 3 Abrahamic religions to have such interpretation from Bahaullah
Not really.
You just ignored all the evidence I provided.
I demand you a reply to my post, where I provided Quranic references and Hadithes.
Will you?



What is their holy books those prophets whom claimed to be messengers at the time of prophet Mohammed PBUH and what their religion was called compared to Bahaullah and Ahmadiyyah,i didn't know that there was another faith born at the same time with Islam
That is for you to investigate.
So, if your argument is about Holy Book, then Clearly Baha'i Faith has many of them.
You are really getting off-topic now.
What is the OP about?






Aha,i know now why Bahai faith is around 5 millions all around the world because many christians and muslims are converting to your faith.
The Numbers mean nothing.
In fact, if you go by numbers, there are more people who do not believe in Islam. Perhaps you should do the same? go after the majority.
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No I am not comparing Hadith with Words of God.
The Bible never says it is the Words of God.
It say, it is inspired by God.
The True Hadithes that actually Muhammad had said are also inspired by God.

But you did not really reply to my question. I asked you, just because a Hadith is found to be corrupted, that does not make all the Hadithes false.
So, your reasoning makes no sense.

So you are saying that some of the hadith were corrupted but not all the hadith and the same thing apply to the bible,some was corrupted but not all the bible was corrupted.

Do you still say that the bible wasn't corrupted,are you sure of what you are saying,corrupted but not corrupted.:bonk:


Not really.
You just ignored all the evidence I provided.
I demand you a reply to my post, where I provided Quranic references and Hadithes.
Will you?

The quran is very clear about the corruption of the scriptures,so if you agree that the quran is god's word then why you didn't accept what it says.

And lo! there is a party of them who distort the Scripture with their tongues, that ye may think that what they say is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture. And they say: It is from Allah, when it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie concerning Allah knowingly. (3:78)

And because of their breaking their covenant, We have cursed them and made hard their hearts. They change words from their context and forget a part of that whereof they were admonished. Thou wilt not cease to discover treachery from all save a few of them. But bear with them and pardon them. Lo! Allah loveth the kindly. (5:13)

Some of the Jews pervert words from their meanings saying, We have heard and we disobey and Hear, and be thou not given to hear and Observe us, twisting with their tongues and traducing religion. If they had said, We have heard and obey and Hear and Regard us, it would have been better for them, and more upright; but God has cursed them for their unbelief so they believe not except a few. (4:46)

Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby. (2:79)

Narrated Ubaidullah: "Ibn 'Abbas said, "Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Quran) which has been revealed to Allah's Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!"


That is for you to investigate.
So, if your argument is about Holy Book, then Clearly Baha'i Faith has many of them.
You are really getting off-topic now.
What is the OP about?

We are on topic about the message of prophet mohammed PBUH,
yes there was no other Abrahamic religions other than Islam as confirming the previous scriptures during Mohammed PBUH but we got 2 messengers (Bahai and Ahmadi) appeared at the same century for 2 different messages from the same god.:shrug:




The Numbers mean nothing.
In fact, if you go by numbers, there are more people who do not believe in Islam. Perhaps you should do the same? go after the majority.

You are the one to say many converts to Bahai not me and i am just trying to prove your words that there is 5 millions Bahai in the whole world.
 
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InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
So you are saying that some of the hadith were corrupted but not all the hadith and the same thing apply to the bible,some was corrupted but not all the bible was corrupted.

The New Testament is written by the desciples of Jesus. Both the Christians and Muslims traditions confirm that, these desciples were righteous. They were Martyrs. And Quran has given a high station to Martyrs who die for the cause of God.
So, they narrated everything with honesty. Of course their narrations are not a direct revelation, but still Truth. It is still considered inspired by God.

However with regards to Islam Hadithes, even among Muslims there is not much agreement about honesty and reliability of the people who wrote or narrated the Hadithes.
So, I think we can compare the New Testament, with Authentic Hadithes. Not all the Hadithes are Authentic.

Do you believe the Authentic Hadithes in Islam are corrupted?
I don't believe so. likewise I don't believe the Bible is corrupted. The Bible is like Authentic Hadithes.
Hope this is clear now.


Do you still say that the bible wasn't corrupted,are you sure of what you are saying,corrupted but not corrupted.:bonk:
see above please.



The quran is very clear about the corruption of the scriptures,so if you agree that the quran is god's word then why you didn't accept what it says.
Which Scriptures? Does it ever name specifically "Injil" and "Torah" are corrupted.
Nope! on the contrary. Quran names these Books and confirms them:

46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
47. Let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

(The Qur'an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 5)

Question: If the Gospel that the Christians have is corrupted, then why Quran says "Let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein."??

also:

68. Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.

(The Qur'an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 5)

Question: if the Gospel that the Christian have is corrupted, then why Quran says "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel"??

There is not even a single verse in Quran, not even an Authentic Hadith that actually uses the name of "injil" "Torah" or "new testament" to say these Books are corrupted.
It says the people of the book wrote books, and said those are from God. but the Question is which books?
Those books that Quran and Hadithes are refering, are NOT the Holy Books that has been available widely among people of the Book.
Those books are "interpretations" and other books, which were written at the time of Muhammad.
Please pay attention to the grammer of the verse to see they are not talking about 1000 years before Islam, when they were writing New Testament or Old Testament. Refer to my post with extensive Quran verses and Hadithes.
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The New Testament is written by the desciples of Jesus. Both the Christians and Muslims traditions confirm that, these desciples were righteous. They were Martyrs. And Quran has given a high station to Martyrs who die for the cause of God.
So, they narrated everything with honesty. Of course their narrations are not a direct revelation, but still Truth. It is still considered inspired by God.

However with regards to Islam Hadithes, even among Muslims there is not much agreement about honesty and reliability of the people who wrote or narrated the Hadithes.
So, I think we can compare the New Testament, with Authentic Hadithes. Not all the Hadithes are Authentic.

Do you believe the Authentic Hadithes in Islam are corrupted?
I don't believe so. likewise I don't believe the Bible is corrupted. The Bible is like Authentic Hadithes.
Hope this is clear now.

That is hypocricy because you yourself as a bahai don't believe about the authenticity of all the hadith,but only muslim believe them,so you are even contradicting yourself.


Which Scriptures? Does it ever name specifically "Injil" and "Torah" are corrupted.
Nope! on the contrary. Quran names these Books and confirms them:

46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
47. Let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

(The Qur'an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 5)

Question: If the Gospel that the Christians have is corrupted, then why Quran says "Let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein."??

also:

68. Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.

(The Qur'an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 5)

Question: if the Gospel that the Christian have is corrupted, then why Quran says "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel"??

There is not even a single verse in Quran, not even an Authentic Hadith that actually uses the name of "injil" "Torah" or "new testament" to say these Books are corrupted.
It says the people of the book wrote books, and said those are from God. but the Question is which books?
Those books that Quran and Hadithes are refering, are NOT the Holy Books that has been available widely among people of the Book.
Those books are "interpretations" and other books, which were written at the time of Muhammad.
Please pay attention to the grammer of the verse to see they are not talking about 1000 years before Islam, when they were writing New Testament or Old Testament. Refer to my post with extensive Quran verses and Hadithes.

That what i call twisting,if god was not talking about his words that have been distorted for his scriptures,then which scriptures that god was talking about,maybe "one thousand and one nights".

Should god mention the scripture by it's name in order for you to believe and you are saying that you are not twisting.:shrug:
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
That is not my logic but an impression some Christians have, after all a Catholic preiest will not turn in a serial killer for confessing murders!

A Catholic Priest can withhold absolution unless the murderer turns himself over to the police as a sign of true repentance.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
The Bible says that Saul met Jesus. He accepted the message of Jesus ie. converted, and then went to 'Arabia' to be trained and instructed in the teachings of the community of Jesus. After that Paul became a missionary.

Later Paul was recalled to the centre of the community to answer questions about what he had been teaching and to whom. He was not the senior authority of the community in that area.

Actually he claimes he heard Iesous' voice. Rather convenient if you ask me.
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
Just a little side dialogue here. Speaking my mind for a moment, I sometimes cannot tell the difference between religious debates and reality TV. They mostly tend to be about "he said, she said" type discourse.

"Jesus said this..."

"Oh yeah? Well, Muhammad said this..."

Isn't anyone else tired of this outdated and illusory conflict based on pseudo-problems that we've created? Why should we invest so heavily in an appeal to authority for truth in the first place? Doesn't it just surmount to a cult of personality?

Sorry, I'm probably just venting here on that which I do not understand. I tried to understand, but to no avail. I'm sure my reply will go unnoticed anyway or be responded with a stern disagreement so, please, carry on with your fruitless attempt to impose a monoculture upon everybody. I'm sure it'll go over really well.
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
That last reply may have been motivated by a sense of frustration with modern society and perhaps a little more harsh than I would normally post. Nevertheless, we have these endless debates that are not actually seeking truth but rather just to win a battle of ideas via the oppression of competing ideas. Notice the language we use. We are in a "culture war". Absolutism is an intellectual violence that I have committed myself in the past. It takes both religious and secular forms and tends to result in more overt coercion and violence in the world in a desperate attempt to impose a monoculture upon everyone else as a means to secure one's own self-esteem and worth. It fails to fully appreciate the vast diversity and uniqueness of individual ways of life.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
That is hypocricy because you yourself as a bahai don't believe about the authenticity of all the hadith,but only muslim believe them,so you are even contradicting yourself.
WHat??? Hypocricy??:(
Even ALL Muslims agree that, there are many fabricated Hadithes in Islam.
As a matter of fact, there is no agreement among Muslims as which Hadithes are Authentic or not. Shias have their own Hadithes, Sunnis their own, and Suffis also have many Hadithes that many other Sunnis or Shias don't believe.
Baha'is believe in ALL Authentic Hadithes, regardless if it is Sunni, Shia, Suffi,...etc.


That what i call twisting,if god was not talking about his words that have been distorted for his scriptures,then which scriptures that god was talking about,maybe "one thousand and one nights".

Should god mention the scripture by it's name in order for you to believe and you are saying that you are not twisting.:shrug:
That is not twisting my friend. When people call the Holy Books of God, corrupted, when there is no proof that this is what Muhammad and Quran have said, that is misrepresenting Islam. Don't you think so?
The problem is, when peoeple all their lives hear, that Bible is corupted, now, when someone else, shows them otherwise with logical argument, and historical evidence, it is hard to believe for them, and/or accept it.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
WHat??? Hypocricy??:(
Even ALL Muslims agree that, there are many fabricated Hadithes in Islam.
As a matter of fact, there is no agreement among Muslims as which Hadithes are Authentic or not. Shias have their own Hadithes, Sunnis their own, and Suffis also have many Hadithes that many other Sunnis or Shias don't believe.
Baha'is believe in ALL Authentic Hadithes, regardless if it is Sunni, Shia, Suffi,...etc.
Simply use the science of Hadith to come to the conclusion of a Sahih Hadith or not. There are several Sahih hadiths that contradict with the teacings of Bahai and if you do not find them Sahih please tell me why.

That is not twisting my friend. When people call the Holy Books of God, corrupted, when there is no proof that this is what Muhammad and Quran have said, that is misrepresenting Islam. Don't you think so?
The problem is, when peoeple all their lives hear, that Bible is corupted, now, when someone else, shows them otherwise with logical argument, and historical evidence, it is hard to believe for them, and/or accept it.
Just a advice be critical and listen to Majority of Christian Biblical scholars who agree that the authors are unknown. What we have now (the NWT) are not even copies of the Original nor copies from the copies and so forth. For example if you took Luke, Matthew and Mark you would come to the conclusion that each Gospel tells us different things that happened now if we have to accept all three of them and mix them together we just created a new gospel.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Simply use the science of Hadith to come to the conclusion of a Sahih Hadith or not. There are several Sahih hadiths that contradict with the teacings of Bahai and if you do not find them Sahih please tell me why.
I don't know which Hadithes you are talking about. Please give me an example specifically.



Just a advice be critical and listen to Majority of Christian Biblical scholars who agree that the authors are unknown. What we have now (the NWT) are not even copies of the Original nor copies from the copies and so forth. For example if you took Luke, Matthew and Mark you would come to the conclusion that each Gospel tells us different things that happened now if we have to accept all three of them and mix them together we just created a new gospel.
Having said all this, I don't see any contradiction between Quran and the Bible in any of the fundamental teachings.
By the way, the same Christian Scolars agree that Islam is not a true religion. So, should I listen to them?
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
#1 A false prophet doesn't come and tell people to do all the good stuff that is mentioned in the Bible and that even Christians don't follow ...

#2 A false(illiterate) prophet cannot come up with a book of miracle (without any contradictions or mistakes) yet correcting the mistakes of the past scriptures
http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...es/129347-there-any-evidence-truth-islam.html

#3 A false prophet wouldn't fit the criterion in those prophecies
A "Paraclete" like Jesus

Biblical Prophecies on the Advent of Muhammad(pbuh)

Amazingly both of the above states that the Prophet to come will not speak from himself but God will put His words in his mouth (which is exactly what the Qur'an is verbatim word of God as revealed to Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) via angel Gabriel):
Deuteronomy 18:18 ... I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him...
John 16:13... He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come...

If there is indeed only one way to salvation and that way is through faith in one man, then a false prophet would absolutely steer people away from him.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
And lo! there is a party of them who distort the Scripture with their tongues, that ye may think that what they say is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture. And they say: It is from Allah, when it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie concerning Allah knowingly. (3:78)

So, if indeed they had written the scriptures falsely and said that is what Allah said, then Quran would contradict itself. For this is what Quran says:

"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings, We would have seized him by the right hand; Then We would have cut from him the aorta. And there is no one of you who could prevent [Us] from him." Quran 69:44-47



Question, if indeed some had made-up some sayings, and had said "it is from Allah", then how did Allah allow that, when the matter of fact is, He had said: "if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings, We would have seized him by the right hand; Then We would have cut from him the aorta."

That's why I say, they did not actually changed or wrote some sayings to the Bible, but they must have written some interpretations on bible and had said, this is the meaning of Bible.

The following Hadith also confirm this:

Al-Bukhari reported that Ibn ‘Abbas (Cousin of Muhammad) said [the Jews] alter and add although none among Allah’s creation can remove the words from His book, they alter and distort their apparent meaning” – with this Hadith it is clear that those who walked with the Prophet (PBUH) believed the text of the Torah was original, while holding the view that the Jews perverted their interpretation.
http://www.judaism-islam.com/islam-teaches-torah-is-corrupted-tahrif-but-what-does-that-mean/
 
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Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
For KING of the JUNGLE

KingOfTheJungle said:
Do we really have credible testimony that disputes these events? If we did then it might be something to look into.

Let me get this right. You don't believe the people that bring up all the impossible things connected to the Noah's Ark story are credible?
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
I don't know which Hadithes you are talking about. Please give me an example specifically.
Ok i will give you one since you yourself used Bukhari its stated in Bukhari that the biblical books are corrupted/altered and forgotten in time now instead of trying to miss interpret the hadith since we both have different ones lets just read it as it is.

Having said all this, I don't see any contradiction between Quran and the Bible in any of the fundamental teachings.
By the way, the same Christian Scolars agree that Islam is not a true religion. So, should I listen to them?
I do:

1. Jesus(pbuh) is not god.
2. Jesus(pbuh) is not a part of god.
3. Jesus(pbuh) is not divine.
4. No trinity.
5. No atonement.
6. Stories regarding certain prophets.
7. The Crusi''fiction'' what you off-course interpret differently.
8. What the Injeel(gospel) really is.
9. what the Torah really is.
10. Direct revelation to prophets and messengers ONLY.
11. Original sins.
12. Only Islam is acceptable and in Christianity, Christianity is.

I can go on and on the differences are there are you really suggesting that the Crusades and Jihads were fought simply over control of Jerusalem? There is no group in the world no-where that beliefs that Islam and Christianity are the same. If you would compare Judaism and Islam it would be a better choice. I personally belief that Christianity has first evolved in a Pagan religion and now in a secular religion.

Your the one who beliefs in Christianity not me if there are Christian scholars disagreeing with my religion i have no problem with it since they are not among my religion. Your the one who is following a religion where the scholars agree that there is no valid preservation.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Ok i will give you one since you yourself used Bukhari its stated in Bukhari that the biblical books are corrupted/altered and forgotten in time now instead of trying to miss interpret the hadith since we both have different ones lets just read it as it is.
But please quote this Hadith.



1. Jesus(pbuh) is not god.
2. Jesus(pbuh) is not a part of god.
3. Jesus(pbuh) is not divine.
4. No trinity.
5. No atonement.
6. Stories regarding certain prophets.
7. The Crusi''fiction'' what you off-course interpret differently.
8. What the Injeel(gospel) really is.
9. what the Torah really is.
10. Direct revelation to prophets and messengers ONLY.
11. Original sins.
12. Only Islam is acceptable and in Christianity, Christianity is.
All of the above pretty much agree between Quran and Bible in my view.
I agree that, Christianity and Islam do not agree about above list. But That is due to interpretations, and people's understanding of Quran verus Bible.
For example, let's consider Quran alone. Do not different sects of islam, contredict each other regarding original teachings of Islam, and interpreting Quran?
Let alone, Christians versus Muslims. Their contradictions is mostly due to their own interpretations.
Now, you can choose one of the above, as you wish, and show one verse from Bible, and One verse from Quran to show they contradict. Then I will show, they do not contradict "If interpreted within the context and when considering the whole Message of the Books"
 

loverOfTruth

Well-Known Member
If there is indeed only one way to salvation and that way is through faith in one man, then a false prophet would absolutely steer people away from him.

Now that I have given you all the historical evidences for the corruption of the Biblical text and proof of the validity/authenticity of Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) message (the Qur'an and the Hadith) - you are talking out of your 'born again' emotion or perhaps just repeating materials that you have been brainwashed with without an iota of scriptural evidence. So now let me break it all down for you from your own Bible.

First, let's examine what are the signs of a false Prophet according to the Bible and see if Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) fits into that description or not.

1) Matthew 24: 4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) certainly does not fit the description of the false prophet given by Jesus(pbuh) here. Why not ? First of all, neither Muslims nor Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) ever claimed he was the Christ/Messiah, that title was never given to him in the Quran, the term Christ/Messiah is only given to Jesus(pbuh) in the Quran. Secondly, Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) never came in Jesus’ name; Muhammad(pbuh) came in Allah’s(God) name and that's why every chapter in the Qur'an starts with 'IN THE NAME OF Allah(God), Most Gracious, Most Merciful'.

2) Mark 13:21 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. 22 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 23 So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.

Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) certainly does not fit the description of the false prophet given by Jesus(pbuh) here. Why not ? Once again neither Muslims nor Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) ever claimed he was the Christ/Messiah. The next description Jesus(pbuh) gives is that the false prophet will perform several great signs and wonders to deceive
people. Even though Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) did perform some miracles in his life time, that wasn't his forte unlike some former Prophets such as Moses(pbuh) etc. In fact, the pagans accused Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) of not performing great miracles and signs since he did not go around everyday performing miracles, and doing great wonders. This is what the Dajjal (anti-Christ) will do. So either way, the Prophet Muhammad does not match that description.

3)1 John 4: 1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the anti christ, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) certainly does not fit the description of the false prophet given by Jesus(pbuh) here rather he perfectly fits the description of the true prophet. Why ? Note that the person who confesses that Jesus(pbuh) is the Christ, is from God. Those who do not confess that Jesus(pbuh) is the Christ are the anti-Christ. Therefore, Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is from God since Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) did confess that Jesus(pbuh) is the Christ/Messiah; and he never said that Jesus(pbuh) is NOT the Christ as can be clearly seen from the Holy Qur'an:

"Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;" (Al Qur'an 3:45)

So you can clearly see that Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) does not in anyway fit the description of the false Prophet stated in the Bible, rather he fits the description of the True prophet of God as stated there in.

Moreover, Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) fits into the description of the prophet to come from the prophecies stated in the Bible perfectly. You can read more details in the following sites but I'll just breifly mention them here.

1) In Deuteronomy 18, Moses(pbuh) stated that God told him: “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy 18:18-19).

Points to note here are [1]:
a) That he will be like Moses.
"There were hardly any two prophets who were so much alike as Moses and Muhammad . Both were given a comprehensive law and code of life. Both encountered their enemies and were victorious in miraculous ways. Both were accepted as prophets and statesmen. Both migrated following conspiracies to assassinate them. Analogies between Moses and Jesus overlook not only the above similarities but other crucial ones as well. These include the natural birth, the family life, and death of Moses and Muhammad but not of Jesus. Moreover Jesus was regarded by his followers as the Son of God and not exclusively as a prophet of God, as Moses and Muhammad were and as Muslims believe Jesus was. So, this prophecy refers to the Prophet Muhammad and not to Jesus, because Muhammad is more like Moses than Jesus."

b) That he will come from the brothers of the Israelites, i.e. the Ishmaelites.

c) That God will put His words in to the mouth of this prophet (i.e the Qur'an) and that he will declare what God commands him as the Qur'an itself testifies to this fact:
"Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.It is not but a revelation revealed"(Al-Qur'an 53:3-4)

[1]http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-3.htm

2) In John 16, Jesus(pbuh) states that “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you."(12-14)

Points to note here are [2]:
a)The Spirit of truth here can not be the Holy Ghost because the Holy Ghost (according to the Bible) was "with" them already (and even quite active) long before the coming of Jesus (pbuh) himself and then throughout his ministry.

b)Jesus(pbuh) is stating that the Spirit of Truth will tell much more new things about God and guidance and he will not speak on his own rather what he hears from God. Did the holy ghost in the last 2000 years after Jesus(pbuh) left teach anything new or give any new information ? No, only Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) did.

c) The Spirit of Truth will glorify Jesus(pbuh). Once again as stated in the Holy Qur'an, Jesus(pbuh) was glorified : "Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;" (Al Qur'an 3:45)

[2]What Did Jesus Really Say ? - A "Paraclete" like Jesus

Finally, Read Matthew 7
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

It is quite telling as to how Jesus(pbuh) in the Bible states 'ONLY the one who does the will of God will enter the kingdom of heaven' and that 'those who does things in Jesus's(pbuh) name will not enter the kingdom of heaven' and yet you claim that 'salvation is through faith in one man' in Jesus's(pbuh) name. You take Paul's word over Jesus's(pbuh). Who's the real false prophet ? The one who teaches God is human being or the one who teaches God is Not a human being.

What does the Bible say about that ?
Numbers 23:19 "God is not human, that he should lie,not a human being, that he should change his mind.Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? "

All these together cannot make things any clearer than that. Think about it !!!
Peace to you.
 
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LoverofTruth: If I had to guess I'd say that you've never even read the Bible. You're just repeating what some imam told you about it.
 
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