It is actually we theists putting our fragile egos onto God. We don't understand God well enough to know if He really can be hurt or not. We make these assumptions out of our own understanding.
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Morality
- Thread starter Nooj
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It is actually we theists putting our fragile egos onto God. We don't understand God well enough to know if He really can be hurt or not. We make these assumptions out of our own understanding.
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
:Clap: frubals
KnightOwl
Member
Very true. However there are times and certain areas of endeavor where they pop up more often than others. The whole area of science developing around genetics is one.
When presented with complex issues of international conflict, the moral choice may not be clear and indeed all viable choices may be immoral in one way or another.
Nooj
none
Thank you, I definitely agree with what you're saying.
Are different experiences in life the reason why people murder, steal and are generally 'immoral'?
McBell
Unbound
I would say that it is ONE of the reasons.
I would also not discount medical reasons, ego reasons, etc.
I agree with bobhikes, experience
ellenjanuary
Well-Known Member
the world does not weigh against her single tear
Forgive me, but I love that line; and if you do not have a variation of this line, you have no morality. What you have, is evolutionary imperative. What you are, to me, is hope; and me and my line, should be seen to you - who debate morality - as a chilling glimpse into the depths of medieval righteousness.
Forgive me, but I love that line; and if you do not have a variation of this line, you have no morality. What you have, is evolutionary imperative. What you are, to me, is hope; and me and my line, should be seen to you - who debate morality - as a chilling glimpse into the depths of medieval righteousness.
Nooj
none
I don't understand this line though. What does it mean?
chinu
chinu
Exactly from where you are getting morality to post this thread,
Anyhow, Good moral Question ?
_/\_
Chinu
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
I just do it. how else would I get an idea or impression?
ellenjanuary
Well-Known Member
Other translations include: thou shalt have no god before me, family first, and look out for number one. The only absolute held by morality is within the individual, the absolute bottom line. When institutions attempt to co-opt this functionality, sects occur.
^That was going to be my exact response, so instead of write it again I'll just quote this.
People have a need for each other. Different people have different talents. There are more than enough people now, but there were fewer the farther back you go. If you, say, had a talent for making clothing but no talent for hunting, you could trade making clothes with someone for food and animal skins or whatever. This need was probably the birth of morality. If you had a set number of people, some hunters, some tailors, some cooks, some shelter builder, etc. then you would need each person because if you killed someone or did something to cause the other person either physical or emotional harm, then you could not trade talents with each other.
waitasec
Veteran Member
gnomon
Well-Known Member
I just rely on the first book I pick up every morning. One day I wiped out an entire culture. The next I gave all my money away. I keep religious texts buried in boxes these days and make sure Bloom County is always near at hand.
If I can't rely on a book I just default to my peoplism. In any decision I will always side on what is best for "my people". Because there is no morality like some good ol' xenophobic morality.
Nooj
none
Should everyone have the same morality? Humans don't reason in the same way, we're liable to come to some pretty different conclusions.
Also, do you value reason and compassion as equally important? Or is one better than the other?
And yet we live in the same world, share the same resources (both natural and artificial) and impact on each other with our acts and decisions, so morality can never truly be oblivious to others.
Speaking for myself, reason is dominant for various reasons. One of them is that reason leads to and supports compassion, while the reverse is not necessarily true.
diosangpastol
Dios - ang - Pastol
is morality subjective?
can we ever agree on something about morality?
are there actions that are inherently evil, for example, murder or rape, or are these actions ever be justified as right?
can we ever agree on something about morality?
are there actions that are inherently evil, for example, murder or rape, or are these actions ever be justified as right?
waitasec
Veteran Member
read the OT
the bronze age ideals of morality;
if god says it's ok then it's ok...
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