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More attacks on Free Speech in the UK
- Thread starter icehorse
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Yes I do
Public order needs to be enforced
As does constitutional government and the rule of law
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Scary stuff isn't it? Worse , it is ongoing with the Yanks to a lesser extent , but we will catch up unfortunately if the the politicians keeps garnering more control over people.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Stalin would have loved modern day technology and control over masses of people. The monitoring and technology would make writing out his death lists so much easier.
So not wanting riotous yobs to run around burning down public libraries and trying to lynch migrants is Stalinism now is it????
Certain sections of the masses need controlling as they are otherwise inherently out of control, with disastrous consequences
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nope. They don't need controlling unless there is a valid reason to control , and that is best described as a response to contain rather than indefinite monitoring of the masses overall.
Like I said , Stalin would be absolutely giddy with joy.
Yep
Those who are prone to disturb the King's peace need controlling and need to be punished too
In the UK there is a substantial underclass that are easily lead into disorder
Bringing Stalin into this doesn't magically make you right
Burning down libraries is not valid reason?
Attacking people in the streets is not reason?
Definitely not,a 61 year old man has just been jailed for 18 months for chanting “who the **** is allah” and calling police a four letter word,he has no previous convictions,police bodycam video shows he was not violent,the judge could have fined and given him a suspended sentence,we are in bad times imo.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
And they responded. No reason to include all others into it.
He was a part of a mob
He contributed to violent disorder
I think 18 months is fair
Hopefully he will learn from this
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Maybe you could put a link to an article or charging papers for this guy so we can see what he was charged with.
He was charged with violent disorder but police vest cam video shows no evidence to that.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
A reference would have been nice but i think you are talking about Michael WIlliams of Devon age 51who took part in the riot chanting "Who the f*** is Allah' repeatedly. Building security cameras caught him committing assault and battery pushing a man down and repeatedly kicking him. WIlliams also filmed hurling bottles and rocks at police. He pled guilty to the charge of violent disorder.
Yes, policing is inconsistent and that is wrong
However it was still right to lock that guy up
Very inconsistent
Who responded? If they are inciting more riots, arson, attacks and racial hatred then why should the police not act in the strongest way the law allow to attempt to prevent it?
Indeed
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Right and do so. Just don't start including other people into it who are not even involved in the matter as if they are somehow under suspicion themselves.