Nope,61 year old David Spring of Longfellow Road in Sutton.
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More attacks on Free Speech in the UK
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Nope,61 year old David Spring of Longfellow Road in Sutton.
What other people, who mentioned other people? Oh right, you did
Father Heathen
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But how does censoring images of the riot help stop these things? Shouldn't the public be informed of what is occurring?
But this thread is about speech...
Images liable to incitement are illegal
Not if doing so may encourage further disorder from certain sections
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
David Spring attended the "enough is enough" demonstration at Richmond Terrace. Police asked the 700-strong protest to remain in Richmond Terrace and then disperse leave at 8.30pm. The demonstrators did not disburse and Spring was one of the demonstrators who became violent and broke through barriers at Richmond Terrace, advancing towards Whitehall and confronting police officers. He shouted obscenities at police and engaged in threats. Spring pled guilty to the charges. the judge ruled: "At that point you did that [shouting and swearing at police] you must have been well aware it was a particularly volatile situation and police were doing their best to keep order. Your actions showed a complete contempt for the police at that time. What you were doing, could and did encourage others to threaten the police and add to the disorder. Violent protests can't be tolerated, and neither can violence towards police officers who do their duty to protect the public from disorder, and those who do can expect to receive severe sentences, to punish you and deter others from disorder."
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
How does one make that assessment? What about images of other riots? Are images of riots in general a form of incitement?
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
England doesn't have a guarantee of free speech like the United States does.
For several centuries now the test for limits to free speech has been whether a bit of speech is likely to cause IMMINENT violence. If I'm understanding you, it would seem that you think we should change that to
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
But how do you know if particular things are a form of encouragement? What about works of fiction that depict scenes of crime and/or violence? Seems like a slippery slope to me.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
Do we know just what was the content of the images that were censored?
I'm still waiting to hear your argument..
I think any incitement to violence should be unlawful
Thus should of course be done lawfully
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It's one thing to if someone is actively encouraging, instructing, and coordinating violent and criminal activity, but the public having a view of actual events happening in their own streets? I occasionally watch dash cam footage of police pursuits. Is that a form of dangerous, crime-inciting speech?
By the wording
If a play or a TV programme actually calls for real life violence then that should be an issue
That would depend on the motivations of the producers and the broadcasters
Two questions:
1 - How would that be judged?
2 - What to do when a government becomes violent towards its own citizens?
I didn't make or act on the statutes so i don't know.
What about them? We are talking about the current riots. Im pretty certain that riots in the future will be handled thr same way .
Im general, probably not.