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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
To decide what? To drive a car or drink whiskey or choose their sex? No, they aren't capable of those kinds of decisions.

My twins are 14, they drive a car which they are legally allowed to do (given various restrictions) where we live.

They choose not to drink. Which to some extent/circumstances is legal where we live.

And they are sensible enough to weigh the pros and cons, and the future as far as is possible should they feel uncomfortable with their gender. As it happens they are not uncomfortable but it seems i think far more about a childs capabilities than you do.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Notice how I didn't do that at all.

And notice how you completely avoided what I said, again? You'd rather try putting words in my mouth apparently, than actually responding to what I actually said. Speaks volumes about your position, I'd say.

It happens often, one of his debating techniques.
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
My twins are 14, they drive a car which they are legally allowed to do (given various restrictions) where we live.

They choose not to drink. Which to some extent/circumstances is legal where we live.

And they are sensible enough to weigh the pros and cons, and the future as far as is possible should they feel uncomfortable with their gender. As it happens they are not uncomfortable but it seems i think far more about a childs capabilities than you do.
A 13-14 year old is not mature enough to make decisions with permanent consequences like a sex change. You're talking about the same people who eat tide pods to show off.
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
No, you are talking about immature children, and treat them as immature. I don't have the same antique view of children that you seem to have
It's science. Your brain is not fully developed as a teenager.
I remember being a teenager. It's a very emotional time. Everything seems really intense. It's not a time for making irreversible decisions. What they think is reality will change dramatically once they leave high school. Those influencers, their peers, that were so important, will in many cases not even be in their lives.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's science. Your brain is not fully developed as a teenager.
I remember being a teenager. It's a very emotional time. Everything seems really intense. It's not a time for making irreversible decisions. What they think is reality will change dramatically once they leave high school. Those influencers, their peers, that were so important, will in many cases not even be in their lives.

That does not mean they cannot be responsible and respond to trust. I find treating your adults as children dehumanises them and turns them into tide pod eating show offs.

Forcing guilt onto emotional young adults will traumatise them for life, they are capable of making their own decisions if given the correct information
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
That does not mean they cannot be responsible and respond to trust. I find treating your adults as children dehumanises them and turns them into tide pod eating show offs.

Forcing guilt onto emotional young adults will traumatise them for life, they are capable of making their own decisions if given the correct information
A 12-16 year old is not an adult.
They are children.
And as such they need guidance that won't make them regret a permanent solution to a temporary feeling.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
A 12-16 year old is not an adult.
They are children.
And as such they need guidance that won't make them regret a permanent solution to a temporary feeling.

Yes and with that guidance i find that they are capable of making wise and informed decisions.

Being treated like 7 year olds only ****s them up.

Maybe its just me or maybe its one reason that counts towards why there is so much violence over your side of the pond.
 
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