Mormon Church refuses to bless children of Same-Sex Couples.

[Robert.Evans]

Agreed -- provided the parents are okay with the child being baptized. If the child of a non-LDS hetersexual couple wanted to be baptized, his parents permission would be required. It should be the same, in my opinion, with respect to the children of homosexual couples.

You cannot join with immorality if you are keeping the commandments. And if you are not, then you face judgement. "You" is not you specifically.

 

[Robert.Evans]

I was banned for commenting on this on a random Mormon blog on Patheos. Seems the celebrants of the Joseph Smith circle will never learn their lesson. Oh well. While I feel sorry that these same-sex families are being ostracized, I think, overall, it is for the best. Now we know where the polygamous sex cult stands on LGBT issues.

Keeping God's commandments does not make a cult, certainly not in a negative sense.

 

[Robert.Evans]

It's not you. I like you, you know I do.
It's your church and churches like it that are the problem.
Tom

The homosexual act is the problem not those who try to keep the commands. Don't twist things.

 

[McBell]

Great, then we agree... disallowing children of same sex marriages from entering into church membership is best for all parties concerned.

Yeppers.
Would hate to see them mistreated by the higher ground simply because their parents are not straight.

 

[leibowde84]

I'm not sure what "blessing" is supposed to do -but biblical baptism was of mature people, anyway -followed repentance -understanding the commandments, turning from sin -which would include sexual sin -which would include same sex marriage.... But as we are talking about the parents' lifestyle being considered......

Waiting until at least 18 to be baptized would not be a bad idea for any -but then one must consider whether those baptizing are truly ministers of God and Christ -whether the one being baptized had actually repented -knew basically what to repent of -and whether or not God then chose to put his spirit within them.

Baptism itself is just a ritual -but one God chose to signify repentance and foregiveness -is for forgiveness of the sins of the truly repentant -and precedes the giving of the spirit of God (at the laying on of hands of the ministry -also a ritual in and of itself).


The lifestyle of parents should not be a consideration in the baptism of a mature person -though views about such could be considered -and children are not likely to be mature enough to have adequate understanding or repentance. One must also be ready to make a lifelong commitment before seeking to receive God's spirit.

The New Testament church -as described in scripture -did not allow people to congregate with the church if they were not willing to keep the commandments, etc.... so everyone was generally like-minded....

Perhaps their decision is based on the fact that the children of people who were not of the same religion would not have the same sort of support and teaching at home as others -might be seen as more likely to not stay with the religion -so they wait until they are more mature.

I don't know.
I am not familiar with that religion

I think it rather futile to not "accept" something which is happening regardless of your acceptance..... But a religion is pretty much defined by the things which are deemed acceptable and unacceptable to do -so not accepting certain behavior for one's self, or within a congregation of people who think they should do otherwise, is understandable.

I agree, but this is avoiding the issue. They are singling out children not permitted to be blessed because of their parents lifestyle choice. You agree with that reasoning?!

 

[Unification]

Great, then we agree... disallowing children of same sex marriages from entering into church membership is best for all parties concerned.

Absolutely, middle ground and best of both worlds. Positives for both.

 

[Etritonakin]

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I agree, but this is avoiding the issue. They are singling out children not permitted to be blessed because of their parents lifestyle choice. You agree with that reasoning?!

I do not understand that reasoning -or what they mean by blessing.

If someone "blesses" my food, for example..... I do not see that it would be different in any way -it is already a blessing.

If someone "blesses" me after I sneeze, I appreciate the positive will, but it is not as if they have prevented some health crisis.

If it does mean actual supernatural healing or something, I don't see how the lifestyle of the parents should be a factor.

I don't believe men ultimately control who is blessed supernaturally by God, either.

I also believe everyone should be a blessing to everyone else by doing what is good for them -regardless of the beliefs and lifestyles of everyone else. They should do good to all -and will that God do good to all.

The actions and attitudes of some make it difficult to do them good -or do not produce good for them -but that has nothing to do with me.

Sometimes, it is wise to avoid some whose actions and attitudes will cause harm -but I do not agree with judging someone based on the choices of others -if that is the case here.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

This is completely disgusting, making them choose between a religion or their family. Why would any child of gay parents ever become a Mormon, then? Why would gays have anything to do with Mormonism?

 

[Sonofason]

This is completely disgusting, making them choose between a religion or their family. Why would any child of gay parents ever become a Mormon, then? Why would gays have anything to do with Mormonism?

Given what the Bible says, why indeed would any gay person have anything to do with any church, or even God for that matter?

 

[Nietzsche]

Given what the Bible says, why indeed would any gay person have anything to do with any church, or even God for that matter?

Well, for one, 'sodomy' as described in the Bible doesn't refer to what we think of as 'sodomy' today. It refers instead to orgies(specifically ones involving animals). So the argument could easily be made that it's not actually talking about what we consider homosexuality.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Given what the Bible says, why indeed would any gay person have anything to do with any church, or even God for that matter?

Why should anyone bother with such a hateful group and such a human-hating god, actually.

 

[4consideration]

Given what the Bible says, why indeed would any gay person have anything to do with any church, or even God for that matter?

I don't think that's the point of this thread.

I think this is just an excuse for people that disagree with a particular religion to jump on a chance to bad-mouth it.

If the OP had been the complete opposite... like...the Mormon church is happy to bless children of same sex couples, I think the same opposition, from the same corners, would appear.

 

[Katzpur]

Why should anyone bother with such a hateful group and such a human-hating god, actually.

Let's talk about that Frank, when you become a Catholic again.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Let's talk about that Frank, when you become a Catholic again.

Not happening. Way too psychologically unhealthy. Personally, you seem too nice to be part of such a bigoted religion.

 

[Katzpur]

Not happening. Way too psychologically unhealthy.

If you say so. But I've seen you switch back and forth between Catholicism and whatever else a whole lot more times than I can count. And, I'm sorry to have to say that you were much nicer as a Catholic.

Personally, you seem too nice to be part of such a bigoted religion.

Well, you can't paint us all with the same brush. We're all unique individuals, and I can guarantee that I'm not the only Mormon around who isn't pleased with this new policy.

 

[Sonofason]

Well, for one, 'sodomy' as described in the Bible doesn't refer to what we think of as 'sodomy' today. It refers instead to orgies(specifically ones involving animals). So the argument could easily be made that it's not actually talking about what we consider homosexuality.

Your statement here appears to be an opinion. Care to share some evidence.

 

[Sonofason]

Why should anyone bother with such a hateful group and such a human-hating god, actually.

Yet it was your lips from which the word hatred spilled...

 

[Sonofason]

I don't think that's the point of this thread.

I think this is just an excuse for people that disagree with a particular religion to jump on a chance to bad-mouth it.

If the OP had been the complete opposite... like...the Mormon church is happy to bless children of same sex couples, I think the same opposition, from the same corners, would appear.

Well, leave it to me to find the hidden agenda of anti-God movements

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If you say so. But I've seen you switch back and forth between Catholicism and whatever else a whole lot more times than I can count. And, I'm sorry to have to say that you were much nicer as a Catholic.

"Nicer"? I'm still the same person, just that I'm not pretending to have faith in something that I really don't.

Well, you can't paint us all with the same brush. We're all unique individuals, and I can guarantee that I'm not the only Mormon around who isn't pleased with this new policy.

I'm sure you're not, but what can you and those other dissenting Mormons do to change it?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yet it was your lips from which the word hatred spilled...

Yes, to point out the hatred of others.