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Mormonism????
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joecrawford815
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I'm done with this site! You are all probably glad and I know that you will rejoice on the forums, but know one thing, I never tried to get anyone to abandon their beliefs, I merely stated what I believe, The Bible, and tried to get members of the LDS Church to realize that they are, indeed not Christians (but Mormons), atleast as the vast majority of Christianity views it. I will have you know that I am not leaving because I have realized you are right, I haven't, or because I don't want to argue anymore, I am doing it because I cannot continue to be this person. I, despite my other threads claims have not been as loving as I should have, I have falsely accused and attacked when I know Christ would have, I have not been a light to you all, and do hereby apologize for that. I realize my arguing techniques are not what some of yours are, and perhaps it is because I am young, but maybe not, I have much to learn in this way, and thank you for the advice given throughout these past days. I still holfast to my beliefs as I have examined them, and I have, by the way, read into most of the sites you guys have provided links to and still I see the same thing I did before, which is not Christianity according to my Bible. You can say according to interpretation, but my interpretation is based off of Pastoral insight, my study bible notes, others and now CARM, which deals with more that other religions, it has Bible studies and explanations which are relevant and true. I will not argue this any more because I now realize that you are not tolerant of my convictions and beliefs. You say that I do not love, but I have indeed loved as only a follower of Christ can love, not necessarily on this site, and for that I apologize, but nonetheless do not judge me, I do not judge you, I know I am not perfect and neither are any of us. Don't bother to respond to this post because I won't be back. Good bye and God bless.
Joe
PS. I mean every word of this post. I hereby to withdraw any faulty or untrue info that I have sudmitted. But nonetheless hold to my position.
Joe
PS. I mean every word of this post. I hereby to withdraw any faulty or untrue info that I have sudmitted. But nonetheless hold to my position.
Bishka
Veteran Member
joecrawford815 said:
This makes me laugh. You are trying to convince us that we aren't Christians, when we know we are. I always wonder how people are going to go around doing that.....Sorry to see you leave, you could have learned a lot about the LDS Church if you would have stayed and realized that, in fact, we are Christians.
Edit: I also love how you said you didn't judge, yet you judged the LDS Church to not be Christian, how's that for ya?
How did I miss this thread?! Somebody should've grabbed me.
:biglaugh: :no:
I'm sorry that's just too funny. No right wing propaganda whatsoever
Jesus says clear as day "Do not Judge" period. End of sentence. This
joecrawford815 said:
:biglaugh: :no:
I'm sorry that's just too funny. No right wing propaganda whatsoever
BZZZ...wrong.
Jesus says clear as day "Do not Judge" period. End of sentence. This
is not any where in that entire passage and is out of context. Jesus was condemning the Pharisee's for preaching the law and for placing themselves above others. And now you're complaing that you're being attacked and judged. Read the rest of that passage. "For whatever measure you use, it will be used against you" Hey how about that. It is the book of truth. Jesus warns you this would happen.
Booko
Deviled Hen
Mister_T said:
Well, not exactly period. It continues: lest ye be judged likewise.
I think of it as a warning about judging others. It could mean something like don't dish it out if you can't take it. Or maybe it's a sort of warning of the karma you can expect if you go off badly on the judging thing.
Smart guy, that Jesus fella.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
joecrawford815 said:
Feel free to use the report button if you feel you've been wronged.
The commonly accepted use of the word Cult: A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
Why can't you understand why people are getting riled up when you call their church or religion a cult? Because to the rest of the world outside of you and CARM it has very negative and dangerous connotations.
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A case could be made that calling another faith a 'cult' without evidence that is really is a cult is violating rule #4. Just FYI.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
joecrawford815 said:
Please come back when you're ready to be a part of our community.
For what purpose? To make them abandon their faith? To humilate them? Why on earth would you come here and single out the Mormons to attack?
So THIS was the purpose of your thread. We know that we're not "traditional" Christians. I'm a Mormon because I don't believe in "traditional" Christianity. I'd be athiest before I could believe in "traditional" Christianity. Call it what you want. I follow Jesus Christ and don't really care much about your opinion on the matter.
Must resist from rejoicing...
Just kidding. I don't like seeing anyone leave, but you've gotta realize that ReligiousForums is different than other forums. If you want to find a place to bash Mormons there are plenty of them out there. RF is a place where RESPECT is the keyword. An important part of maturing is learning to respect points of view that are different than your own. Some people never learn this. Stick around here and you might, but avoid CARM like the plague.
PHOTOTAKER
Well-Known Member
jonny said:
your quote makes a good point i don't mean any offence...
most Christian don't even believe in the traditional beliefs they change like the weather... and very unpredictable... here an example of that:
a priest from a church(i wont disclose the name of the religion) told me that he believed that God, the Son and the holy ghost are three separate beings. about a year later i asked him a similar question and he said, " now we belief that they are one being not three" i asked why he changed and he said, we change when we are told to..."
this in itself is confusing yet from the beginning of the LDS church things are added to the doctrine not taken away, better expiations come out but the belief is still the same, yet most religions have to have debates on doctrine, and then if enough people don't like the change they form a new religions. LDS is Christian not only dose it fit the definitions of the word; "Mormonism" was an insult by people who didn't understand the beliefs and where too naive to try to understand anything, Ignorance is not Bless.
Mormans cant be christians because they do not believe in the same God. Mormonism is a polytheistic religion. Joseph Smith declared, "I will preach on the plurality of Gods. I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods" Christians believe in one God, the Trinity, three in one not three different gods. having a different god means having a different religion.
Bishka
Veteran Member
rib4 said:
We aren't going to get into this are we?
We don't have a different God then you, and if you actually understood what Joseph Smith was talking about you wouldn't have even posted. This gets to be real old after awhile, don't you think the followers of the religion know if better then you?
Booko
Deviled Hen
And Jews will tell you that God isn't a Trinity, and if they wanted to be rude and inconsiderate they would go onto Christian conferences and tell everyone there that they don't really worship God. sheeshrib4 said:
Uh, so what's your point?
btw, I think there's an entire area for discussing the LDS view of God. That might be a good place to ask questions about what Mormons really believe.
Booko
Deviled Hen
SoyLeche said:
My best friend and I have many food allergies. We can eat at Waffle House. Denny's would do us severe harm.
You'd be surprised. Waffle House has better quality food than Denny's does.
And so tell me, since this is <ahem> a thread on Mormonism...uh...what are your dietary laws like?
(whew...that was a stretch getting back to the OP!)