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This is correct. Large parts of the OT appear to be false as well. Obviously, this makes the Mormon theological position even worse.No, thats not what I am debating at all. Look, I know you are of Jewish descent yourself, but I really havent read enough of your posts to know if you are even a theist. If you are, and if you believe in the Abrahamic God, you would have to concede that there are many Old Testament stories that simply cannot be proven to have ever happened. There isnt even any historical evidence to support the Exodus.
Another point is that at least the OT stuff is supposed to have happened thousands of years ago. It's more difficult to establish for certain exactly what did happen. The BoM is set more recently, so its factual falsity is more dramatic and clear.
You are welcome to believe all sort of things, no matter how ridiculous. That is not the same as claiming they are true, or that anyone else should believe them. (which of course, the Mormon Church does every day all over the world, in the person of pairs of young men carrying black backpacks and riding bicycles.) Not only can it not be proven to have happened, it can easily be proven NOT to have happened.As a theist, a Christian and a Latter-day Saint, I believe that with Gods help, Lehis voyage would not have been impossible, but I have never claimed it could be proven to have happened any more than I have claimed that Moses turned the waters of the Nile into blood or that God spoke to him from a burning bush. Im sorry if Im not debating what you want me to debate, but the topic of the OP concerns DNA evidence for the Book of Mormon and thats all it concerns.
But there's a lot more in the book than that, isn't there? There are millions of descendants (itself impossible, of course, according to population studies) who fill up the land from sea to sea, and who die by the tens of thousands in huge battles fought with swords and chariots. None of these things left a trace of evidence, either genetic or archeological.You didnt answer my question. Ill repeat it. I asked you to assume, for the sake of argument, that two Middle-Eastern families actually had migrated here 2600 years, and to tell me why scientists would expect today's population of Native Americans to carry the genetic markers of these individuals.
Is it supposed to be factual?We havent made any archeological or genetic claims. Thats what you seem to be missing. The Book of Mormon is not an archeological or genetic document any more than the Bible is.
Are you saying the entire BoM is one long allegory, and none of the events in it actually happened? If so, we're in agreement.It is a religious text. If we were to say that DNA evidence proves the American Indians to be descendants of ancient Middle-Easterners, you would have the right to demand evidence, but we havent done that. If we had claimed that certain archeological finds were ancient Book of Mormon ruins, it would be entirely logical for you to ask for proof, but we havent done that either.
There you go again with this condescending, superior attitude. Why, Caladan? Aside from believing differently than you, what have I done to deserve this unabashed contempt?
One of the problems with this modern, odd interpretation of the BoM, adopted only after science disproved any possibility of the standard view, is that the BoM itself never mentions any native peoples, or intermarrying with them.Perhaps it is a fair question, even if it is off-topic. Heres my answer: According to the Book of Mormon, the Lord said to Nephi, inasmuch as ye shall keep my commandments, ye shall be led to a land of promise; yea, even a land which I have prepared for you; yea, a land which is choice above all other hands. Now, having responded to your question, I am going to ask you a second time to respond to mine. I believe it is an equally fair question: If two Native American families plus one single Native American male had migrated to the Middle East 2600 years ago and had intermarried with the native Middle-Eastern population, would anybody today claim that the Middle East was settled by the Native Americans? Would you expect to see DNA evidence to support such a claim?
Obviously, if you travel to a foreign land and meet and become as one with the people there, you would mention that.
And of course, the land described in the BoM does not match America in any particular, whether flora, fauna, resources, technology, agriculture, language, customs or any other way.