Moses asks science

[Bthoth]

So humans alone evolved to have their consciousness push them for the most part to put some protective covering on. (build computers -- write music -- etc.) And you say that's not part of evolution. OK. Accordingly seems that the development of the brain and consciousness involves evolution. Maybe I'm wrong and you're right, that humans do not have evolved brains that enable and prompt them to invent reading, writing and arithmetic. Right?

mankind is of nature, capable of describing (created words, math, etc) and literally DEFINING ITSELF.

 

[TLK Valentine]

mankind is of nature, capable of describing (created words, math, etc) and literally DEFINING ITSELF.

Mankind's evolutionary advantage is intelligence - leading to abstract thinking, problem solving, communication, etc...

 

[Bthoth]

Mankind's evolutionary advantage is intelligence - leading to abstract thinking, problem solving, communication, etc...

Conscious life is capable.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Conscious life is capable.

True enough - just for curiosity, how are you defining "conscious"?

 

[Bthoth]

True enough - just for curiosity, how are you defining "conscious"?

Self aware and capable to articulate the position of an 'aye'

 

[TLK Valentine]

Self aware and capable to articulate the position of an 'aye'

Then it's possible and indeed likely that there's plenty of conscious life on this planet that we are not yet aware of, correct?

 

[Bthoth]

Then it's possible and indeed likely that there's plenty of conscious life on this planet that we are not yet aware of, correct?

I learn from the writings left by conscious lives.

The majority of life that is or had been conscious, did not leave their experiences in writing.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I learn from the writings left by conscious lives.

The majority of life that is or had been conscious, did not leave their experiences in writing.

But writing isn't a sign of consciousness - articulating "aye" is.

There's plenty of life on Earth (possibly even Earth itself, if it has emerged), that articulates without writing, and continues to do so in ways we don't understand.

 

[Bthoth]

But writing isn't a sign of consciousness - articulating "aye" is.

It's a method of exchanging between conscious life, here in the now.

There's plenty of life on Earth (possibly even Earth itself, if it has emerged), that articulates without writing, and continues to do so in ways we don't understand.

Very possible.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It's a method of exchanging between conscious life, here in the now.

Very possible.

More than possible; but an observable fact.

We know that cetaceans (whales and dolphins) communicate with one another over long distances, but since we don't speak the language, we don't know what they're saying.

Even plants and fungi are able to "communicate" through the release of various spores or chemicals.

 

[Bthoth]

More than possible; but an observable fact.

We know that cetaceans (whales and dolphins) communicate with one another over long distances, but since we don't speak the language, we don't know what they're saying.

Even plants and fungi are able to "communicate" through the release of various spores or chemicals.

What's your point? Please.

 

[TLK Valentine]

What's your point? Please.

My point is exactly as I have stated - we are surrounded by conscious life, demonstrating intelligence on levels we can't understand, or perhaps have even become aware of yet.

Personally, I find that to be quite a humbling thought.

 

[Audie]

My point is exactly as I have stated - we are surrounded by conscious life, demonstrating intelligence on levels we can't understand, or perhaps have even become aware of yet.

Personally, I find that to be quite a humbling thought.

But unacceptable for thems as want to
be gods special creation.

 

[Bthoth]

My point is exactly as I have stated - we are surrounded by conscious life, demonstrating intelligence on levels we can't understand, or perhaps have even become aware of yet.

OK.... let me know when one of them writes a book for mankind to learn from.

Personally, I find that to be quite a humbling thought.

I am not debating what is conscious in the animal nor natural kingdom.

I wrote that mankind is conscious life within nature, 'defining itself' and you asked me how I define consciousness.

OK, so i did. What do you want from me?

 

[TLK Valentine]

OK.... let me know when one of them writes a book for mankind to learn from.

What's the point of writing a book for someone who doesn't know how to read?