Greatest I am
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I see the beauty of everything and what I consider the signature of God. Does this answer it?
No. God does not sign anything. Men do.
Do you see beauty in a starving child?
Regards
DL
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Most here attack or defend. Are there any that just seek God.
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No. God does not sign anything. Men do.
Do you see beauty in a starving child?
Regards
DL
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Agreed. Personally, I struggle to write in any way other than 'I'... not sure why, perhaps it's autism? Who knows. My university teachers noted it, too.
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Hostis humani generis
It's called a metaphor. Look it up sometime.
And as for your question, I won't answer a loaded question that borders on trolling. I'm sure you can use your brain and figure out the answer.
Greatest I am
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Perhaps it a fear of endorsing your own thoughts.
I, yes I, do not have that fear.
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DL
Greatest I am
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I didn't come here to be "schooled" by you, nor did I ever ask for direction from you nor for you to do anything for me. I was merely trying to explain my own point of view as best as I could. The "school room" I am in is one that is still under construction, one that I am building myself with my own two hands. So no matter how hard you try, you'll never be able to squeeze me into any mold or box you have, I just don't work that way, and for you to try would be for you to ignore other aspects of who I am.
Yeah, you're right, this is a waste of time. There's no point in discussing one's views with someone who doesn't even WANT to try and understand. I'm always up for a debate though, provided you're willing to be more civil about it next time. Goodbye
I just wanted to pose a quick question to the rest of you in this thread(I hope you don't mind). Is there anyone here who honestly doesn't understand what I've been going on about with greatest I am the past few pages of this thread? I know greatest I am doesn't seem to understand my point of view, I was just wondering if there was anyone else here who is in that same boat.
Thanks
Thanks
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Hostis humani generis
No, I struggle to write in other ways. I have no fear of endorsing my own thoughts, none.
All I fear is being blinded by ignorance.
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Hostis humani generis
As I said, I refuse to discuss it - I do not want to give more food to someone who's behaving like a troll to me.
Come on then, tell us why? As you seem to think you are the mouthpiece of God, I'd love to know the answers to all the difficult questions that have kept people thinking and struggling in regards to God.
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I do.
I agree with what you've said, and am probably on the same boat as you - being a seeker and also, for lack of a better word, being bothered by I am, who seems unable to understand anyone else's point of view, or not accept that they can have them.
I gotta ask you sometime about your choice as an Omnist, tho, I just gotta!
To be quite honest I see both of your points. I understand that labelling limits and can never be 100% accurate and that is why you do not believe labels are necessary at all. Correct me if I'm wrong by the way. Greatest I Am says without labels we don't have a point of reference which I also understand. I don't have a problem with labelling as a point of reference, a starting point so to speak. However, when the label defines the person or thing completely, then I believe it is not accurate. No label can completely define anything and limits if taken as absolute. Our brains catagorize in order to make sense out of chaos and that is important, but it always should just be the starting point and recognized as never being the whole picture, because the whole picture is in a constant state of change. Which is how I feel you define yourself MW, a constant state of growth and change. That in my mind is healthy because without change comes death.
Greatest I Am I think, sees labels as helpful markers to make sense of the chaos. Again, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think he is saying labels are as far as he goes in understanding something.
That's how I have understood these conversations....
Greatest I am
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This is not likely to happen if you speak of things you know.
If you ere or need something further to whatever theory or idea you are expressing then I am sure someone will let you know their views and then you get to chose if it fits or not.
This is how theories are grown. All people get red faced sometimes. I remember that it even happened to me. I think I was three and have been right about everything ever since. Smiles
Do not live without love only because you are afraid of heartache.
Regards
DL
I do.
I agree with what you've said, and am probably on the same boat as you - being a seeker and also, for lack of a better word, being bothered by I am, who seems unable to understand anyone else's point of view, or not accept that they can have them.
I gotta ask you sometime about your choice as an Omnist, tho, I just gotta!
Thanks. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you may have about my beliefs. Just PM me any questions you may have and I'll do my best to explain my views. I look forward to our mutual discussion.
Greatest I am
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No.
If you want preaching, get a Bible.
If you want to recognize the right path then I need to know what and how you think.
You like metaphore.
Telling you what my binoculars see does not tell you if your are out of focus too close or too far. If they are fine then you do not need to ask.
Regards
DL
Greatest I am
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I do.
I agree with what you've said, and am probably on the same boat as you - being a seeker and also, for lack of a better word, being bothered by I am, who seems unable to understand anyone else's point of view, or not accept that they can have them.
I gotta ask you sometime about your choice as an Omnist, tho, I just gotta!
Check post 289.
You refuse to discuss you say and then ask something from me.
In debate quid pro quo is a rule.
Reciprocity is a rule.
Tell me, does your statement look to be following the rules?
Regards
DL
Thanks. And you're right I do see myself in a state of constant change and growth. I do understand how labels are sometimes unavoidable if we wish to portray a certain concept(like talking about a dog, in which dog is the "label" so we don't have to take time describing every aspect of the creature so others will know what we are talking about before continuing with our story). But I also think that we humans have a tendency to rely too much on them, try too hard to label everything we come across, and also, once the thing is labeled, tend to limit it to it's label and not consider that there's more to it than that. For instance there is far more to a dog than simply the combination of physical description and genetics that we have come to label as "dog".
Believe it or not, GIA, I can kind of understand where you are coming from (which is at best, a guess). You see suffering in the world- starvation, natural disasters, crime, intolerance, and so many more things. We all see these things- we have all questioned them at one time or another(I mean, who hasn't, I would like to know). It is a hard thing. It is heartbreaking.
The difference is that I and others don't blame God for it. We blame ourselves as humans. Unfortunately, finding God doesn't solve any problems. We, as humans, have to do the best we can. In the Bible, in the story of the poor man who died in front of a rich man's home got a reward. I believe that story to be totally symbolic. As flesh we suffer. Starvation is not caused by lack of food- you know that when you see all the wasted food in garbage cans. It is actually caused by men's selfishness. We are all guilty of this. God gave us the resources- it is up to US to use them. The same would be of anything else (outside of natural disasters which is caused by climate and such).
That is why each person must look at him or herself. It is up to each of us to make the world as kind as possible. Each community, each town or city, each country or province, and so on. There is only so much one person can do. But if each person did what they could, the world would be a much nicer place to live in.
*jumps from soapbox and apologizes for preaching.
The difference is that I and others don't blame God for it. We blame ourselves as humans. Unfortunately, finding God doesn't solve any problems. We, as humans, have to do the best we can. In the Bible, in the story of the poor man who died in front of a rich man's home got a reward. I believe that story to be totally symbolic. As flesh we suffer. Starvation is not caused by lack of food- you know that when you see all the wasted food in garbage cans. It is actually caused by men's selfishness. We are all guilty of this. God gave us the resources- it is up to US to use them. The same would be of anything else (outside of natural disasters which is caused by climate and such).
That is why each person must look at him or herself. It is up to each of us to make the world as kind as possible. Each community, each town or city, each country or province, and so on. There is only so much one person can do. But if each person did what they could, the world would be a much nicer place to live in.
*jumps from soapbox and apologizes for preaching.
StripperClown
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I think it would be easier for God to find me.
I think the reason we blame God for all the problems is that it is easier. If we blame God then we expect God to fix them. If we blame ourselves, then it would up to each of us to fix them.
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Then again, what would be "adventure" about that? :flirt: