Most here attack or defend. Are there any that just seek God.

[MoonWater]

M W

Do you or your godess have miracles or a hell.

Regards
DL

We have neither.

 

[Heneni]

Not really, I see an attack. Opinion is like that by it's nature. You are either for or against in that opinion. Always.

I like to see opinion not based on talking snakes and 10 headed monsters.
I do not like a good Bible turned into a fairy tale. It, to me is a more important book that a fairy tale.

Regards
DL

You have to have the ability to look for treasure everywhere. Its the treasure hunters that find the jewels, not the ones who judge the treasure map.

Focus on people and you become more like people. Focus on god and you become what you were created to be.

A warrior who is beating the air, can be adorned in the finest warrior clothes and have an impressive arsenal of weapons, but be ineffective. But it is the wise man, who can take a city without violence.

Heneni

 

[Greatest I am]

Except yin and yang isn't about good and evil, it's about light and dark true but the two are not synonymous with good and evil. How can a symbol that has nothing to do with "good and evil" be the same as a symbol that has everything to do with such concepts. Besides, again, I 'm not really sure what your getting at. Are you trying to say that underneath it all we believe the same thing? or what? By the way, I don't believe in evil... or good for that matter. Or rather I see them as man made concepts that, especially when you used as labels, hurt more than help.

They are human concepts I agree. God is a human label as well.
It is a label that the first God took for Himself.
It was given to Him by a man so that in reality. God is a man.

The first God was a man, the last will be as well.

Regards
DL

 

[MoonWater]

They are human concepts I agree. God is a human label as well.
It is a label that the first God took for Himself.
It was given to Him by a man so that in reality. God is a man.

The first God was a man, the last will be as well.

Regards
DL

I agree though I would go so far as to say that the gods are still "men", or more descriptively, the gods are still "souls" much like you and I. They are just older and, for the moment at least, have no physical body IMHO.

 

[Greatest I am]

Let me give you a tip, don't look for things such as God infront of a computer screen
the net can be an easy tool to take in information, preferably not in an indiscriminate way.

Wisdom is found in diverse places and God ie everywhere.

Shall we just throw a few more useless quotes around or is there something you want to contribute to what has till now except for the one, an exemplary group?

Regards
DL

 

[doppelganger]

We all follow either a political God or a Religious God.

Really? Which one do I follow then?

 

[Greatest I am]

Nothing is truly black or white. Everything is in shades of gray. No matter what opinion you or I have, someone, somewhere will disagree with it. Stating a disagreement is not necessarily an attack. At least it doesn't have to be.

Most of what people call fact is actually an opinion. There are very few absolutes. I like my faith- I like practicing it. However, someone else sees my faith as a delusion. They are entitled to think that, since for them it is true. Just as my faith is true to me.

Hogwash

Good and evil have absolutes as perhaps all issues have.

Lets do one. The issue is genocide.

I am absolutely sure that at no time will genocide be shown as a good tool for social manipulation. Especially of humans.

I am also absolutely sure that any that disagree with this statement are traitors to humanity.

Genocide then is always evil. Absolutely. Any that would use it would also be evil. God included.

Regards
DL

 

[doppelganger]

Genocide then is always evil. Absolutely. Any that would use it would also be evil. God included.

What if "God" does use it? Should I even want to look for "God" then?

 

[MoonWater]

Hogwash

Good and evil have absolutes as perhaps all issues have.

Lets do one. The issue is genocide.

I am absolutely sure that at no time will genocide be shown as a good tool for social manipulation. Especially of humans.

I am also absolutely sure that any that disagree with this statement are traitors to humanity.

Genocide then is always evil. Absolutely. Any that would use it would also be evil. God included.

Regards
DL

well of course it is if you label everyone who disagrees with you a "traitor to humanity." Doing that leaves no room for debate. Why must there be absolutes? Every action has both positive and negative consequences no matter how much we may like to believe otherwise. black and white exist only as colors, nothing more.

 

[Greatest I am]

I think, to an extent, they all do.
Fortunately, outright preaching is not permitted on this forum.
For many of us, it is merely for the entertainment value.

I never stop questioning my own thinking, but I will insist that I am most certainly NOT looking for a "new God". Quite the contrary actually. For the most part, I have left behind, what I personally deem to be extremely primitive views of reality. I remain satisfied that being exists, but become more convinced with each passing day that concepts of external Gods are a ruse designed to ensnare the vulnerable. Their thinking on the matter seves to underscore my thinking.

Again, I think everyone here is, for the most part, still "looking" for "god", whatever "god" is precisely, in their minds. The question also conveniently ignores those who have moved beyond such constructs, believing that such thinking distorts personal reality more than it is worth.

You are right. Religionist have screwed up by letting Good Bibles turned into nursery tales. Secularism is on the rise exactly for that reason.

The Religionists would remind you that it is the Fundamentals who have pushed the miracle side of the equation. That 99-9% of Religionists even shun their own Fundamentals is a known fact. They are all black flag operations.

Do not throw out the baby with the bath water but do not believe in the genocidal maniac either.

God is real, just not as portrayed by zealots.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

You're aware that Job ends that story by placing his hand over his mouth, right?

No.

Regards
DL

 

[doppelganger]

No.

Regards
DL

Oh. You should read the rest of it then.

 

[Greatest I am]

then you have a very limited view of god methinks. Why do you presume to tell people what it is they believe and what kind of god they follow? Why do you presume to give people a set of "options" for god? Surely you realize not everyone is going to agree with them. I don't. Why are you trying to limit "god" to a particular label?

There can only be one.
If too many, as today, none hear Him or they fight.

We are in the same times as Constantine. to say that the world does not need a new Bible is just the dumbest.

Christians have labeled God as a loser and genocidal maniac.

The real God is not but sees secularists taking control and from a Religionist point of view, that's bad.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

I agree though I would go so far as to say that the gods are still "men", or more descriptively, the gods are still "souls" much like you and I. They are just older and, for the moment at least, have no physical body IMHO.

Not till people decide to give God a new name. Then we can have a physical representation.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Really? Which one do I follow then?

Judge them and decide for yourself. Who else has your good sense.

Regards
DL

 

[doppelganger]

Who else has your good sense.

You seem to want to claim that distinction for yourself, actually.

 

[MoonWater]

There can only be one.
If too many, as today, none hear Him or they fight.

you mean there can only be one God, or only one belief about god? Either way I disagree

We are in the same times as Constantine. to say that the world does not need a new Bible is just the dumbest.

While I do find wisdom within the bible I don't think we NEED it whether it be old or new. Especially when you consider that the wisdom that can be found in the bible can be found almost universally in other sacred and philisophical texts.

Christians have labeled God as a loser and genocidal maniac.

The real God is not but sees secularists taking control and from a Religionist point of view, that's bad.

Regards
DL

Maybe from YOUR religionist point of view it's a bad thing. I'm religious and I don't see it as a bad thing and I'm sure that goes for many other religious people as well. Just because it's your opinion doesn't automatically make it correct or make it the only right idea, or the only idea one can really hold; yet you seem to be making that assumption

 

[Greatest I am]

What if "God" does use it? Should I even want to look for "God" then?

Follow your bliss.

Regards
DL

 

[MoonWater]

Not till people decide to give God a new name. Then we can have a physical representation.

Regards
DL

I fail to see what a "new name" has to do with any of this. Personally I think the gods choose for themselves if,when, and why they take on a physical body, just like the rest of us.

 

[Greatest I am]

well of course it is if you label everyone who disagrees with you a "traitor to humanity." Doing that leaves no room for debate. Why must there be absolutes? Every action has both positive and negative consequences no matter how much we may like to believe otherwise. black and white exist only as colors, nothing more.

I know what the negative effects of genocide are.

What are the positive effects?

When you answer you will see why some things are absolute.

Regards
DL