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Most here attack or defend. Are there any that just seek God.

Greatest I am

Well-Known Member
you mean there can only be one God, or only one belief about god? Either way I disagree



While I do find wisdom within the bible I don't think we NEED it whether it be old or new. Especially when you consider that the wisdom that can be found in the bible can be found almost universally in other sacred and philisophical texts.



Maybe from YOUR religionist point of view it's a bad thing. I'm religious and I don't see it as a bad thing and I'm sure that goes for many other religious people as well. Just because it's your opinion doesn't automatically make it correct or make it the only right idea, or the only idea one can really hold; yet you seem to be making that assumption

Then you are a Religionist fool.

Secularism means that society will move to where almost all things with little or no victim as legal.

A form of slavery for all. Legal prostitution, gambling brawling, dog fights and **** fights. Are you ready to live in Rome of 100 AD.

Rather an ugly picture no.

Regards
DL
 

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
Hogwash.

You are defeated before even ******* starting with that loser aptitude. Girdle your loins boy, manhood await.

Name this indefinable and I shall shew you how to handle such.

Regards
DL

On the contrary.

Starting with that attitude leaves for unlimited discovery.

If you're looking for a definitive.. well... definition, then once you have one, you're going to stop looking, thinking you've found it.

Defeated - only if I was going against something.
Loser - again.. only if I was competing with something.
 

Greatest I am

Well-Known Member
On the contrary.

Starting with that attitude leaves for unlimited discovery.

If you're looking for a definitive.. well... definition, then once you have one, you're going to stop looking, thinking you've found it.

Defeated - only if I was going against something.
Loser - again.. only if I was competing with something.

Go go tiger.

Regards
DL
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
I know what the negative effects of genocide are.

What are the positive effects?

When you answer you will see why some things are absolute.

Regards
DL

Decrease the surplus population, prevent the birth of or kill off someone who would be "worse than hitler", maybe advertently or inadvertantly prevent a plague from spreading by killing off the only people who had the disease. I'm not advocating genocide and believe me I hate it as much as the next guy, I don't think it should be done. Nut nothing is absolute, everything has positive and negative consequences. most of the time one outweighs the other and while with something as drastic as genocide you can easily see how heavily its weighed on the negative side there are many concepts where it's not so heavily weighted to one side or the other. That's we we have the idea of weighing the pros and cons before making a decision.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
Then you are a Religionist fool.

really, I can't wait to hear this:rolleyes:

Secularism means that society will move to where almost all things with little or no victim as legal.

Secularism is about seperating church and state, not abolishing the church. Even so morality isn't dependant on religion. Aside from that, if something doesn't hurt anyone how can it be bad?

A form of slavery for all.
I fail to see how allowing people more freedom can make them slaves.
Legal prostitution, gambling brawling, dog fights and **** fights. Are you ready to live in Rome of 100 AD.
Except those things hurt, they have victims. So your contradicting yourself. First you say secularism will legalize anything that doesn't have a victim then as examples of this you state things that clearly have victims. Do you see the contradiction.

Rather an ugly picture no.

yup, luckily it's not going to happen;)

Regards
DL
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
God is a puppet that rules at the pleasure of the people.

Regards
DL

your god is pinnochio?

This puppet god might be smart enough to rule at the pleasure of the people, but another god who want people to rule themselves with integrity and courage will ultimately usurp him.

Those who rule themselves well, have no need to rule over others.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I know what the negative effects of genocide are.

What are the positive effects?

When you answer you will see why some things are absolute.

Regards
DL

Less competition, which means better chances of survival.

That was easy.

(keep in mind, I don't condone genocide in anyway shape or form)
 

Greatest I am

Well-Known Member
doppelgänger;1343148 said:
That doesn't answer my question. :shrug:

Yes. Following your own bliss and instincts will get all of us where we want to go.
These are God given and are perfect.

Regards
DL
 

Greatest I am

Well-Known Member
MoonWater

Some thing like 60 % of hookers were abused in the home and basically forced into prostitution.
Many gamblers and drunks do their own thing but their families go hungry.

Are there any victims in victimless crimes. You bet.
No one lives in a vacuum.

Regards
DL
 

Greatest I am

Well-Known Member
Less competition, which means better chances of survival.

That was easy.

(keep in mind, I don't condone genocide in anyway shape or form)

You do by finding a good to it.
Hitler would agree that less competition is good. The Jews would disagree.

God's genocide gave 8 a better chance to survive, the millions dead were surviving quite well without it. After it they survived not at all.

Regards
DL
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
MoonWater

Some thing like 60 % of hookers were abused in the home and basically forced into prostitution.
Many gamblers and drunks do their own thing but their families go hungry.

Are there any victims in victimless crimes. You bet.
No one lives in a vacuum.

Regards
DL



Sure no one lives in a vacuum. But if something is victimless then it by definition has no victims. Just what point are you trying to make here

And are you going to actually respond to anything I said in my posts?
 
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