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Mother Nature vs. God?

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Thief

Rogue Theologian
Theory is an explanation, with proof. It is effectively as good as fact.

No.

You're allowing yourself to cross an line you should never cross.

An explanation might be sound...with fact to support it.

Proof is an entity quite different.

I believe in evolution.
The facts point to the explanation.
That's as far as it goes.

Beyond that....God did it.
 

FlyingTeaPot

Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
Evolution is an observable fact. The theory of evolution provides an explanation for the mechanism by which evolution occurs.
 
No.

You're allowing yourself to cross an line you should never cross.

An explanation might be sound...with fact to support it.

Proof is an entity quite different.

I believe in evolution.
The facts point to the explanation.
That's as far as it goes.

Beyond that....God did it.

There is no fact without proof. You have no evidence to say God did it.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Actually....
We've had this discussion at great length under another thread.

Yes we have.

And you were shown exactly where your misinterpretation of a scientific theory lies.
The fact that you insist on sticking to the colloquial usage of the word theory is evidence of intentional ignorance.

Now, would you mind answering the long ignored question?
And yet, at any other time, you would be willing to quote science and it's unproven theories as fact.

What unproven theories?
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
I know. That is why science is an authority on certain facts. Religion and faith never are.


There is no fact without proof. You have no evidence to say God did it.

If I may step in here...

Have you never come to the thought that perhaps these sciences and religions you speak of bloom from the same tree?

Fact is only determined by what we have brought into existence, it is nothing more than an illusion brought forth to separate and manipulate our own kind.

At One point in time the Church and its dogma was "fact", whereas only those of it's community and those that partook in its development had the knowledge and education of "language" and how to read and write.

There is no fact without proof, yet what proof have you to say our "sun" is a "star", besides the label we have bestowed upon it? Is a "star" not also a "hollywood performer"?

What you speak of is the same thing, as "mother nature" is the very same thing as "God".
 
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McBell

Unbound
And you think a religious discussion is about me?
LOL
Is that really all you got out what I posted?

Wow.
And you really expect to be taken seriously?

Go look in the mirror and call yourself an accident.
That might work for you.

Doesn't work for believers.
Ah yes, back to this worn out strawman...

You should come up with a new song and dance.
You have worn this one thread bare.
 

McBell

Unbound
Did you just say "I am right because I belive I am right"?
Well see, that is merely having faith in their faith.
And since faith requires no proof...

It is rather interesting, and sometimes quite disgusting, how this faith keeps snowballing until they are completely immune to truth and facts.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
You guys are incredibly boring, this is no longer a battle of wits and reason it has now become a battle of ego and endurance...:facepalm:

 
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