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Mr Trump has questioned Ms Harris's racial identity.

McBell

Unbound
I dont care what race someone is I care when they pretend to be a certain race for political expediency.
What race is she "pretending" to be?
Not Indian because she actually is Indian.
Not black because she actually is black.

You should too but apparently not.
You have strongly implied she is "pretending" to be a race she is not.
What race is she "pretending to be?

My father says said an honest man should never have to tell you he's honest.
And?
You need to support your claim she is pretending to be a race she is not.
Otherwise you are ignoring your father...

I've noticed that works for other attributes as well.
Apparently not.
Unless of course you can present what race she is pretending to be...

I notice people.bere are very easily "insulted".
And some make bold empty claims they can not/will not support.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
As the mother of four biracial kids, I don't have a problem with anyone identifying however they want but what I DO have a problem with is someone pandering to (and often talking like) a certain group of people saying they self identify as a certain skin tone, and then switching it up around a different group of people. Don't do that, folks.
Good thing Kamala hasn't done that despite the complaints saying she just suddenly started identifying as black.
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
What race is she "pretending" to be?
Not Indian because she actually is Indian.
Not black because she actually is black.


You have strongly implied she is "pretending" to be a race she is not.
What race is she "pretending to be?


And?
You need to support your claim she is pretending to be a race she is not.
Otherwise you are ignoring your father...


Apparently not.
Unless of course you can present what race she is pretending to be...


And some make bold empty claims they can not/will not support.
She's 1/4 black and suddenly she's pushing it. Why? Not everyone is a dumb as a Democrat
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
As the mother of four biracial kids, I don't have a problem with anyone identifying however they want but what I DO have a problem with is someone pandering to (and often talking like) a certain group of people saying they self identify as a certain skin tone, and then switching it up around a different group of people. Don't do that, folks.

So no code switching? That's pretty normal for many many people.

"Code-switching is the act of changing one's speech, appearance, or behavior to fit in with a group or to make others feel comfortable. It can also refer to switching between dialects, styles, or registers. For example, someone might speak slang to their friends at school but proper English to their family. "

Even I do it.
 

McBell

Unbound
She's 1/4 black and suddenly she's pushing it. Why?
Why?
Um...
Because she is black.

out of curiosity, what evidence do you have that her Jamaican father is only half black?

Not everyone is a dumb as a Democrat
I agree.
Sadly it appears that Republicans are.
And then there are those who make Republicans look like geniuses...

And I did notice that you have not presented which race she is "pretending" to be....
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So no code switching? That's pretty normal for many many people.

"Code-switching is the act of changing one's speech, appearance, or behavior to fit in with a group or to make others feel comfortable. It can also refer to switching between dialects, styles, or registers. For example, someone might speak slang to their friends at school but proper English to their family. "
I haven't heard the term code-switching to describe that.
 

McBell

Unbound
So no code switching? That's pretty normal for many many people.

"Code-switching is the act of changing one's speech, appearance, or behavior to fit in with a group or to make others feel comfortable. It can also refer to switching between dialects, styles, or registers. For example, someone might speak slang to their friends at school but proper English to their family. "
I use language that is appropriate for the environment I am in.

Most of the time anyway.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
So no code switching? That's pretty normal for many many people.

"Code-switching is the act of changing one's speech, appearance, or behavior to fit in with a group or to make others feel comfortable. It can also refer to switching between dialects, styles, or registers. For example, someone might speak slang to their friends at school but proper English to their family. "

Even I do it.

It's a very common human behavior. A riff on that:

 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
Do you adopt an accent, depending on the audience?

My sister does, without realizing it. She grew up on the west coast, but has spent many years in the south. It's interesting to see her inflection change depending on where she's at. I have a friend who grew up in CT and has been living on the west coast for many, many years. But when he gets excited, his east coast accent comes right back.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Race is a political stunt from both sides.

-The right questioning her race
-The left using her race to push/advertise her

But there is a big difference in that one side considers racial background a negative factor in her character, and the other a positive factor. America has long proudly advertised itself as a "melting pot" of many nations and races. Our long journey to overcome a deeply embarrassing legacy of racial discrimination is enshrined in history, and we even have a national holiday to celebrate Martin Luther King, Jr., a man who made great strides in overcoming racial barriers to social advancement. Kamala Harris, like Barack Obama, stands as testimony to our ability to now elect people of color to the highest office of government. She would also demonstrate a breakthrough for women, who have historically also been discriminated against.

So please don't call a celebration of her race and gender a "political stunt" in the same sense that racebaiting behavior is. We should not vote for her because she is simultaneously African, Asian, Caucasian, and female. We should celebrate the possibility of voting for her at all in a major national election, but we should still vote for the person we consider best qualified to be elected regardless of race and gender.

ETA: BTW, I am half Polish by ancestry, and I have a Polish surname that makes it difficult for people to pronounce it. If I were to run for public office, that would be a negative factor, but I would still not try to suppress or downplay my Polish ancestry. I'm rather happy to be identified in that ethnic slot, and maybe that would garner me some extra votes in Polish-American communities (e.g. Chicago or Detroit). So, in an election, I would likely use that background to get votes, but an opponent could go into those Polish neighborhoods and point out that I'm not Polish enough to merit their votes. It would be silly, because, again, it should be about the best qualified candidate, not who my ancestors were. But politics is what it is.
 
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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
My sister does, without realizing it. She grew up on the west coast, but has spent many years in the south. It's interesting to see her inflection change depending on where she's at. I have a friend who grew up in CT and has been living on the west coast for many, many years. But when he gets excited, his east coast accent comes right back.
I am not talking about reverting to a language or accent that played a big part in your life. I'm talking about throwing in an accent or language you didn't grow up around or spend much time around.
 
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