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Mr Trump has questioned Ms Harris's racial identity.

McBell

Unbound
I am not talking about reverting to a language or accent that played a big part in your life. I'm talking about throwing in an accent or language you didn't grow up around or spend much time around.
then a definite no.

The only thing I pretend to be is sober.
And that is only when I am not.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
If I do it is not intentional.

I do pronunciate my words though.
But I do that regardless of who I am around or whatever environment I am in.
I sincerely doubt that you invoke an accent that didn't play a huge part in your life.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
I am not talking about reverting to a language or accent that played a big part in your life. I'm talking about throwing in an accent or language you didn't grow up around or spend much time around.

You don't have to spend a lot of time around an accent or language before you start picking it up. Everyone's different, so there will be those who do it more or less than someone else. It's certainly not a hill to die on.
 

McBell

Unbound
I sincerely doubt that you invoke an accent that didn't play a huge part in your life.
I honestly do not think I do.
I grew up an army brat.
So I have been all over the world.
Literally.
so it would not surprise me to be told I am unconsciencely switching up my accent.

Though I have not been more than 300 miles from my current home in the last two or three decades....
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
You don't have to spend a lot of time around an accent or language before you start picking it up. Everyone's different, so there will be those who do it more or less than someone else. It's certainly not a hill to die on.
Not to you, apparently.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I honestly do not think I do.
I grew up an army brat.
So I have been all over the world.
Literally.
so it would not surprise me to be told I am unconsciencely switching up my accent.

Though I have not been more than 300 miles from my current home in the last two or three decades....
Hey, I am a military brat too (but Air Force aka Chair Force)! Me too, by the way (been all over the world), and then more many years later, so lots and lots of travel. I went to nine schools in eight years!
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
You don't have to spend a lot of time around an accent or language before you start picking it up. Everyone's different, so there will be those who do it more or less than someone else. It's certainly not a hill to die on.
Way back when I was 17 years old, we went on a class trip to England for 10 days.
When we got back, all of our friends were complaining that we were all speaking in weird accents. :D
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Some additional historical context for those that don't know what the NYT article was in part referring to:

The one-drop rule was a legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th-century United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry ("one drop" of "black blood") is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms).

....

This concept became codified into the law of some U.S. states in the early 20th century. It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness" that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste system and later segregation. Before the rule was outlawed by the Supreme Court in the Loving v. Virginia decision of 1967, it was used to prevent interracial marriages and in general to deny rights and equal opportunities and uphold white supremacy.


So if you do not currently understand why these attacks are so incendiary and onerous, this is why.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Some additional historical context for those that don't know what the NYT article was in part referring to:




So if you do not currently understand why these attacks are so incendiary and onerous, this is why.
Oh, I totally get it. Which is why I think the whole thing is ridiculous, but then I also find most politicians ridiculous.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Once again Trump is inspiring conservatives to be racist in the most casual way.
Conservative here (fiscally) but not racist one iota. Or sexist. Or ageist. Or any other ist I can think of. Or ic for that matter.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Oh, I totally get it. Which is why I think the whole thing is ridiculous, but then I also find most politicians ridiculous.
I had kind of forgotten about this myself - the history of slavery in this country does get covered in public education, but not always particularly well. It is a difficult subject to teach and discuss. Some of the little details like this get lost. What really floors me every time I look into these things again is this... really was not all that long ago. It's within living memory folks in DT's generation.
 

Soandso

ᛋᛏᚨᚾᛞ ᛋᚢᚱᛖ
Both identities certainly can and usually do co exist in multi racial people. But I am talking about people who literally change the way they talk around certain ethnic groups. It's ridiculous. Sort of like my ex husband, who was African American, adopting a German accent to his American English when he was talking with a German person. Calling himself Gayorg, instead of George, WHICH WAS HIS NAME, that sort of thing.


Meh :shrug:

Honestly I can't bring myself to care all that much. Especially when the person we compare her to is just straight up an adjudicated rapist. Feels like a splinter in one's eye while there's a plank in your own kind of situation
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Meh :shrug:

Honestly I can't bring myself to care all that much. Especially when the person we compare her to is just straight up an adjudicated rapist. Feels like a splinter in one's eye while there's a plank in your own kind of situation
OK.

I feel like it's duplicitous but maybe you don't. To me, it's indicative of a deeper problem.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I agree.

I will even "clean up my act" when somewhere my normal self is not appropriate or appreciated.
I.E funeral, wedding...

My wife calls it my "best behaviour"..
I think "being on your best behavior" is what, again, damn near almost everyone calls it, lol.:tonguewink:
 
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