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Mueller Report Released. Thoughts?

Skwim

Veteran Member
What amused me was :

Trump’s response to Mueller’s appointment: “I’m ******” [very naughty word]
source


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PureX

Veteran Member
As said in another thread. Does anyone think that the House should address what some see as malfeasance by the President or move on to matters that are more important to the country like immigration, drug prices, infrastructure, and other matters that have a greater impact on the country?
We are not going to move onto any of those other issues because the oligarchy that run this country already have those issues settled to their satisfaction. All they're really interested in now is keeping the rest of us fighting among ourselves while they keep robbing us all blind.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
We are not going to move onto any of those other issues because the oligarchy that run this country already have those issues settled to their satisfaction. All they're really interested in now is keeping the rest of us fighting among ourselves while they keep robbing us all blind.
I know the oligarchy is your primary concern,
but what is your opinion of Mueller's report?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The swamp creature created a swamp and the result stinks. The sun also came up this morning. Crimes were committed by the current administration and some people are in prison because of them. The crime boss was apparently saved by a few who refused his orders at the time.
If Trump is indeed a "crime boss", then the convictions would
be based upon Trump's actions or orders. Which were those?
I ask because the crimes I recall were independent of their
relationship with Trump.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I know the oligarchy is your primary concern,
but what is your opinion of Mueller's report?
It shows that Trump did everything he could to obstruct the course and responsibility of justice in this country. Something I would have to assume is a breach of his oath of office. And why would he have behaved that way if he were so 'innocent' of any sort of collusion? Also, collusion is extremely difficult to prove because in many instances people can collude without ever having to meet and agree verbally (or otherwise) to do so. And if someone met and agreed to collude on his behalf you'd have to prove he knew it and directed it in advance, or found out and approved of it in retrospect. Both, also very hard to prove. And moreover, Donald Trump is a near mental and emotional retard. How do you prove anything going on in a mind that is that bizarrely self-centered, profoundly muddled, and insanely myopic? He's mentally incapable of following a coarse of reason beyond whatever is good for his ego in the moment. The kind of collusion being investigated is too complex and persisting for Trump's moment-to-moment myopic attention span.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It shows that Trump did everything he could to obstruct the course and responsibility of justice in this country. Something I would have to assume is a breach of his oath of office. And why would he have behaved that way if he were so 'innocent' of any sort of collusion? Also, collusion is extremely difficult to prove because in many instances people can collude without ever having to meet and agree verbally (or otherwise) to do so. And if someone met and agreed to collude on his behalf you'd have to prove he knew it and directed it in advance, or found out and approved of it in retrospect. Both, also very hard to prove. And moreover, Donald Trump is a near mental and emotional retard. How do you prove anything going on in a mind that is that bizarrely self-centered, profoundly muddled, and insanely myopic? He's mentally incapable of following a coarse of reason beyond whatever is good for his ego in the moment. The kind of collusion being investigated is too complex and persisting for Trump's moment-to-moment myopic attention span.
This is all stuff you've said before the report.
I'm wondering about what you found in it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Obviously you have missed it's subtle but deeply philosophical undercurrent of showing right and wrong as both sides of the popsicle...
Obviously that & the counterpoint of the surrealism of the underlying metaphor.
 

averageJOE

zombie
The narrative is the most important thing here. The narrative that CNN and MSNBC have been pushing everyday for the past 2 1/2 years. And the narrative is: (in a nutshell) Trump is a Putin puppet who's campaign colluded with Russia to influence the election. That's the only part Trump's base care about. Now this report concluded that there is no evidence of this. Now, we are seeing a massive moving of the goal posts where instead of yelling "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!" they are yelling "Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction!!!"

This is not going to hurt Trump. In fact, in my prediction, this is exactly how he gets re-elected. Because right now Bernie Sanders is the only one who can beat Trump (Tulsi Gabbard can beat him as well, but that's a different topic), and the DNC will once again do everything in their power to force another establishment/centrist through the primaries. And whoever it is, whether it's Buttigeig, O'Rourke, Biden, or Harris, Trump will beat them. (Biden would hands down be the easiest for Trump to beat) Because ALL the 2020 democratic candidates, except for Tulsi Gabbard, bought into Russia-gate.

Now on a final note, shouldn't we all agree that there being no evidence for Russia influencing our elections is a good thing?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
shouldn't we all agree that there being no evidence for Russia influencing our elections is a good thing?
Where did you get the idea that there is no evidence for Russia influencing your election? The Mueller Report says the exact opposite.

The first freekin sentence:

“The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.”
 

Sanzbir

Well-Known Member
Anyone concerned with the Israeli foreign collusion that the document showed?? Or is it all just a "muh Ruskies" Neo-Red Scare??
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Many have predicted proof of guilt....or proof of innocence.
What have you seen?

I won't read anything that long, so I depend upon y'all.

I think it was a failed coup that cost the American tax payer $27 million.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I think it was a failed coup that cost the American tax payer $27 million.
Do you think it would have been better if there was no Mueller investigation?

Should they have just ignored the Russian interference in your election?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If Trump is indeed a "crime boss", then the convictions would
be based upon Trump's actions or orders. Which were those?
I ask because the crimes I recall were independent of their
relationship with Trump.
Are you including the campaign finance violations that he made in this statement?
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Do you think it would have been better if there was no Mueller investigation?

Should they have just ignored the Russian interference in your election?

Countries interfere with other countries elections all the time. All of them do it to each other all the time. This is no revelation.

It was a failed coup attempt by butt hurt Dems who lost the plot years ago, and are slipping further into madness with each passing day.
 
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