Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) in the Eyes of Non-Muslims

[Gharib]

In my case, my only problem with Islam or rather with Muslims at large vis-à-vis Islam is their stand that Islam alone is the true religion and all other religions are bunkum.

well you believe that too, your religion is the only religion. otherwise why follow only that, you are not like the Baha'is who believe in all religions. i too consider islam to be the only true religion but just as you respect my religion i too respect yours. i cannot tell you accept islam because it is the ture religion but i can tell you that it is the true religion but if you accept it or not thats up to you. you and every non muslim will have the witness come out on judgement day saying that you were tolled about islam but you did not accept it. thats the reason why we need to tell people about islam so that everyone has a witness in judgement day.

 

[England my lionheart]

well if Muhammed (saws) made a false religion then why would he tell his people to worship Allah. the hindu religion also has strange beliefs (from my perspective) but who ever created it said worship god or something. so if Muhammed (saws) wanted to be famous or something he could have acheived it by saying to worship him instead of Allah, people converted to islam just by looking at his face, so don't you think they would have converted to his new religion if he was called a god?
come on whatch what you are saying it doesn't really make sense. if you wish to write something like this then you must explore all the possibilities, so if you have that as your reasosning then why didn't he have the other one which i have mentioned?

Amazing,people actually converted just because they looked at his face,so,because everyone could'nt see him they speeded things up by giving conquered people a choice ,convert or die.

 

[Gharib]

Amazing,people actually converted just because they looked at his face,so,because everyone could'nt see him they speeded things up by giving conquered people a choice ,convert or die.

i understand the ironic first half but whats with the other one?

 

[K.Venugopal]

well you believe that too, your religion is the only religion. otherwise why follow only that, you are not like the Baha'is who believe in all religions. i too consider islam to be the only true religion but just as you respect my religion i too respect yours. i cannot tell you accept islam because it is the ture religion but i can tell you that it is the true religion but if you accept it or not thats up to you. you and every non muslim will have the witness come out on judgement day saying that you were tolled about islam but you did not accept it. thats the reason why we need to tell people about islam so that everyone has a witness in judgement day.

To begin with, I do not believe my religion is the only true religion, just as I do not believe my mother tongue is the only valid language. If you are taught, whether by Islam or an interpretation of it, that your religion is the only true religion, then I regard such teaching the most pernicious of teachings. From the standpoint of saying my religion is the only true religion, what sort of respect can you give other religions? How much respect can you give a religion which you consider is wrong? So you are only being politically correct in saying you respect other religions.

 

[Steinninn]

I haven't read all the replies here, but for a long time I saw Muhammed as a warlord

 

[Gharib]

To begin with, I do not believe my religion is the only true religion, just as I do not believe my mother tongue is the only valid language. If you are taught, whether by Islam or an interpretation of it, that your religion is the only true religion, then I regard such teaching the most pernicious of teachings. From the standpoint of saying my religion is the only true religion, what sort of respect can you give other religions? How much respect can you give a religion which you consider is wrong? So you are only being politically correct in saying you respect other religions.

ok if you as a person don't think that your religion isn't the true religion then whats the point of believeing it? so you can belong to a community, to a tradition, to a culture, to tell people you are a follower of a religion. no thats not it, is it.

everyone believes that religions other than the one they follow are false. your friend suraj ( i don't know if you are a hindu follower but you seem like it to me, sorry for the ussumption) said that all religions who are not proven by science are wrong. go to this thread "Hinduism: ask your question" you can see it there better if you wish. so how does your religion (if you are a hindu, and i think you are but then again i might be wrong) respect other religions, it consideres other religions to be false.

and i can respect other religions if other religions respect mine. if you as a hindu respect me as a muslim then i as a muslim can respect you as a hindu, we are human we have a brain and that is logic.

 

[Gharib]

I haven't read all the replies here, but for a long time I saw Muhammed as a warlord

what made you change your mind? and Muhammed (saws) isn't a lord he is just a man

 

[K.Venugopal]

ok if you as a person don't think that your religion isn't the true religion then whats the point of believeing it? so you can belong to a community, to a tradition, to a culture, to tell people you are a follower of a religion. no thats not it, is it.

everyone believes that religions other than the one they follow are false.

and i can respect other religions if other religions respect mine. if you as a hindu respect me as a muslim then i as a muslim can respect you as a hindu, we are human we have a brain and that is logic.

[FONT=&quot]Dear eselam, I did not say my religion is not true. I said I do not believe my religion is the [FONT=&quot]only[/FONT] true religion. I believe that other religions are also true. That Islam is the only true religion is the basic belief of all Muslims because that is what is taught in the Quran. Hinduism says truth is one and the wise express it variously. To say that God can be worshipped only in a certain way is both erroneous and narrow minded.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Can you please quote me a verse in the Quran that proves Islam respects other religions unconditionally? [/FONT]

 

[England my lionheart]

I haven't read all the replies here, but for a long time I saw Muhammed as a warlord

Hi,many still do

 

[Gharib]

[FONT=&quot]Dear eselam, I did not say my religion is not true. I said I do not believe my religion is the [FONT=&quot]only[/FONT] true religion. I believe that other religions are also true. That Islam is the only true religion is the basic belief of all Muslims because that is what is taught in the Quran. Hinduism says truth is one and the wise express it variously. To say that God can be worshipped only in a certain way is both erroneous and narrow minded.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Can you please quote me a verse in the Quran that proves Islam respects other religions unconditionally? [/FONT]

dear friend. you couldn't have asked a better person for that question if you din't wan't the verse. but if you want it, then i can tell you that i have no idea about any of the verses,and which is where. i hope i can give it to you in the future but at the moment it's like asking for an eye from a blind person. i hope you don't mind about it. and forgive me for not haviving it.

 

[Steinninn]

There is a great application where you can search all these things
Bahai Education - Bahai Software and Education Resources

I have a mac so I can't search myslef.

Should muslims respect other religions, yes
Does it say it in the quran? yes.
Do most muslims follow that? yes.
Do all, no.
Do most islamic leaders follow this? no
Here's proof Kvikmynd.is - Ástand Bahá'ía í Íran

 

[K.Venugopal]

There is a great application where you can search all these things
Bahai Education - Bahai Software and Education Resources

I have a mac so I can't search myslef.

Should muslims respect other religions, yes
Does it say it in the quran? yes.
Do most muslims follow that? yes.
Do all, no.
Do most islamic leaders follow this? no
Here's proof Kvikmynd.is - Ástand Bahá'ía í Íran

When Islam proclaims it is the only true religion, where can the question of it respecting other religions arise? A case in point are the following verses from the Quran:

[Say: We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another.] (Aal `Imran 3:84)

This verse does not talk about respecting other religions. It talks of respecting the same religion that was revealed by Allah prior to Mohammad.

[Let there be no compulsion in religion, truth stands out clear from error.] (Al-Baqarah 2:256)

The spirit of this oft quoted verse is that, we have got the truth, the other religions are all erroneous, let us not compel them of erroneous religions to our truthful religion, let those who wish to follow other religions go to hell.

[The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah--which We have sent by inspiration to thee (O Muhammad)--and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus… Call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded, follow not thou their vain desires; but say: "I believe in whatever Book Allah has sent down; and I am commanded to judge justly between you. Allah is our Lord and your Lord: for us (is the responsibility for) our deeds, and for you for your deeds. There is no contention between us and you. Allah will bring us together, and to Him is (our) final goal.] (Ash-Shura 42:13 & 15)

These verses make it clear that what is being accepted is “The same religion”.

 

[Gharib]

When Islam proclaims it is the only true religion, where can the question of it respecting other religions arise? A case in point are the following verses from the Quran:

[Say: We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another.] (Aal `Imran 3:84)

This verse does not talk about respecting other religions. It talks of respecting the same religion that was revealed by Allah prior to Mohammad.

[Let there be no compulsion in religion, truth stands out clear from error.] (Al-Baqarah 2:256)

The spirit of this oft quoted verse is that, we have got the truth, the other religions are all erroneous, let us not compel them of erroneous religions to our truthful religion, let those who wish to follow other religions go to hell.

[The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah--which We have sent by inspiration to thee (O Muhammad)--and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus… Call (them to the Faith), and stand steadfast as thou art commanded, follow not thou their vain desires; but say: "I believe in whatever Book Allah has sent down; and I am commanded to judge justly between you. Allah is our Lord and your Lord: for us (is the responsibility for) our deeds, and for you for your deeds. There is no contention between us and you. Allah will bring us together, and to Him is (our) final goal.] (Ash-Shura 42:13 & 15)

These verses make it clear that what is being accepted is “The same religion”.

dear friend, i didn't have the verses for you and sorry about that, but if you are saying that we do not tolerate/respect other religions then that means that we need to convert people wether they like it or not, but we aren't doing that, i am not forcing you to convert nor am i threatining you,so thats tolerance for you if you wish to look at it in that way, and there are no verses in the Kur'an that say we need to hate other religions or convert people by force. if you have such a verse then share it, i do not, i don't have any verse (don't remember any) for that matter nor for any other matter. i can't remember them, i don't try thats why

 

[Gharib]

There is a great application where you can search all these things
Bahai Education - Bahai Software and Education Resources

I have a mac so I can't search myslef.

Should muslims respect other religions, yes
Does it say it in the quran? yes.
Do most muslims follow that? yes.
Do all, no.
Do most islamic leaders follow this? no
Here's proof Kvikmynd.is - Ástand Bahá'ía í Íran

thanks for helping out Steinninn, i don't remember many verses so i have trouble if someone asks me for something like that, but thanks for your help, i appreciate it

 

[England my lionheart]

dear friend, i didn't have the verses for you and sorry about that, but if you are saying that we do not tolerate/respect other religions then that means that we need to convert people wether they like it or not, but we aren't doing that, i am not forcing you to convert nor am i threatining you,so thats tolerance for you if you wish to look at it in that way, and there are no verses in the Kur'an that say we need to hate other religions or convert people by force. if you have such a verse then share it, i do not, i don't have any verse (don't remember any) for that matter nor for any other matter. i can't remember them, i don't try thats why

I would like to ask a question Eselam,in a perfect world would the Country where you live be an Islamic state like Iran,i am genuinly interested.

 

[Gharib]

I would like to ask a question Eselam,in a perfect world would the Country where you live be an Islamic state like Iran,i am genuinly interested.

no it's a western country, your coussin you could say. a very very far away coussin

 

[England my lionheart]

no it's a western country, your coussin you could say. a very very far away coussin

But would you like to live in an Islamic state

 

[Gharib]

yes i do like to live in an islamic state.

whats all this for anyway, or are you getting to your point slowly. i can wait if you wish

 

[England my lionheart]

yes i do like to live in an islamic state.

whats all this for anyway, or are you getting to your point slowly. i can wait if you wish

Do you have elections where you can vote

 

[Gharib]

in an islamic state or the current one that i live in.