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actually it's eau minerale
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Multiculturalism:Your Opinion
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actually it's eau minerale
actually all nouns are gendered in French. In romance languages each noun implies a gender: either masculine or feminine. fire, for example.
there are not any non-gendered nouns
Fr. le feu (masc)
Sp. el fuego (masc.)
It. il fuoco (masc.)
Port. o foco (masc.)
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Well...because there is no an Academy that states the principles of grammar and pronunciation, and there is much difference between the two main areas of Sardinian, the South and the North.
By the way...Sardinian sounds uncool to my ears. It is not certainly a refined language.
At least Neapolitan is famous for its songs...but it is considered a dialect, whereas some Neapolitans label it as a language. Then why should I consider Sardinian a language? maybe a dialect of the Iberian Languages
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I absolutely agree.
Because it's a language.
The terms 'dialect' and 'language' have distinct meanings. They are not interchangeable based on personal preference.
It's not a dialect of any Iberian Languages, though there seems at least some possibility of common origins. If it is related in any way to Basque, it would be another language used by a minority and not 'official' I guess. Ironic perhaps.
Yep, totally agree. I read a lot of history, but Irish history as well as North American European settlement are areas of particular interest.
Imposition of English through education was combined with banning use of native language (in many cases).
Personally, I think there is no justification for banning a language.
I'm becoming more and more against multiculturalism. If you are a Hispanic and you want to live in the United States, you are supposed to speak English properly and as God commands.
Sometimes Hispanic people immigrate to the States when they are children. They neglect the usage of Spanish, to improve their English (and they do right). But the result is that some of them speak Spanglish which is an insult to the dignity of the Spanish language.
I really freak out when I listen to a Hispanic that tries to speak Spanish. It's really revolting and irritating. I would say to Spanish learners: if you don't want to take the Spanish learning seriously, do not try to speak Spanish at all. Nobody forces you.
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Sir, you really make me sick. No offense. You ridiculize Spanish and all the romance languages.
Sometimes Hispanic people immigrate to the States when they are children. They neglect the usage of Spanish, to improve their English (and they do right). But the result is that some of them speak Spanglish which is an insult to the dignity of the Spanish language.
I really freak out when I listen to a Hispanic that tries to speak Spanish. It's really revolting and irritating. I would say to Spanish learners: if you don't want to take the Spanish learning seriously, do not try to speak Spanish at all. Nobody forces you.
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Sir, you really make me sick. No offense. You ridiculize Spanish and all the romance languages.
That's a fair question, as there are various ways of defining it. The simplest is the concept of mutual intelligibility.
If an Italian speaker and a Sardinian speaker can understand each other without undue trouble, then you could make a case of those languages being dialects of a larger group.
According to this definition, even Sicilian and Milanese are not dialects, but languages.
Because if a Sicilian speaks Sicilian yp a Milanese, the Milanese won't understand.
and vice versa.
One more thing: the Italian Department of Education provides compulsory education in all the national territory, even in Sardinia. But in Sardinia, the teaching is in Italian exclusively. It is against the law to teach subjects in Sardinian, in a state school. so I guess this is sufficient to prove that Sardinian is a second class language compared to a Italian.
and speaking of dialects, a pupil that dares speak in Sicilian to their teacher, they are immediately sent to the principal's office.
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Yeah, but it's not quite that simple.
For example, if a Sicilian can understand Italian, and a Milanese can understand Italian, they can both be dialects even if they can't directly understand each other.
Anywhoos, for what it's worth, I'd class Sicilian as a language. Not a dialect.
Milanese, I wouldn't have a clue, to be honest.
Yes. It certainly seems so. It doesn't make it any less valid as a language, though.
I daresay that speaking Sicilian to a teacher who doesn't understand it is problematic.
I've taught in a multi-lingual environment, and needed to keep the class conversation to one of the languages I understood just for classroom management.
At the same time, if two students were speaking a language I couldn't understand on their way in or out of class, it wasn't something I tried to control.
It is a dialect. And it is going to disappear, as soon as the old generations die.
No, all Sicilians understand Sicilian. But they do not speak it frequently. and in schools or in public offices, it is strictly forbidden
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Citation? I see that it isn't "supported" by schools, not that it is forbidden.
Sicilian language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Italian language citation is fine, I'll translate/have my mom read it.
Yeah. And it MAKES NO SENSE!! :banghead3
...wait, no God commanded that.
Personally, I think Spanish should be taught in US Primary School, so we can more effectively communicate with Spanish-speaking immigrants, of which we have quite a few over here on the West Coast.