Muslim call of prayer in your community?

[sandandfoam]

I'd have no problem with it. Noise is part of life.

 

[Assad91]

Why should everybody be forced to have than in your neighborhood? Last year, I help demolish two churches in my community because they represented years of abuse and annoyance by their existence. Had their been bells ringing, I personally would have taken a sledgehammer and knocked them down myself. I would have to seriously petition a public call for prayer in my community. If people want to have reminders and notices, why not have them in your own homes? Why subjecte the whole entire community to that unpleasant moaning?

You sound like you live in a small town.

 

[iamsharky789]

You sound like you live in a small town.

lol! Top 15 largest populous cities in the US. Easy to figure out which can afford to lose property.

But just having return from pakistan, it just it too much noise. In the morning, it's pure headache. adhān has it's places inside homes as do church bells. It's just the christians get a pass here because of tradition but more and more people are helping to change that.

At the end of the day, it's not about singling any one religion out. Noise ordinances of the community should be followed and if anyone feels otherwise, then they should petition to allow it.

I wonder 5 most muslim populous cities in america have the call for prayer? How about europe?

 

[iamsharky789]

I googled "church bells noise violation" and the results showed that many people are starting to revolt against church bells and many prominent churches around the world are being told to stop.

 

[BSM1]

What? They can't just send a text?

 

[Repox]

In the USA it would never happen, local, state and national governments are ruled by people, not religions. Presently, I know of no US community that has voted for Muslim prayer time, or for Christian prayer time, or any other religious prayer time.

If the majority of people were Muslims, it might happen. Because of Islamic authoritarianism, or Sharia law, the US Constitution would be disbanded. That would only happen if Christians and all other Non-Islamic religious were in the minority. If that happened, I would fight for freedom or leave the country.

 

[iamsharky789]

In the USA it would never happen, local, state and national governments are ruled by people, not religions. Presently, I know of no US community that has voted for Muslim prayer time, or for Christian prayer time, or any other religious prayer time.

If the majority of people were Muslims, it might happen. Because of Islamic authoritarianism, or Sharia law, the US Constitution would be disbanded. That would only happen if Christians and all other Non-Islamic religious were in the minority. If that happened, I would fight for freedom or leave country.

I don't think so. The younger muslim generation is way more relaxed then their parents. That has to do with the culture. Some kids use the quran as a coffee coaster than a religious book. I can't truly say they are muslim or just "culturally muslim" because I know their parents are but the younger generation is severely more skeptical of man-made religions. I swear the christian religious students were becoming a minority. Religion should always be between a person and their god.

 

[Assad91]

In the USA it would never happen, local, state and national governments are ruled by people, not religion

I guess you've never been to Germantown in Philadelphia.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

The bells are part of the church. If they have something similar attached to their place of worship... I cannot see a problem. Church bells ring like dinner bells...from their home on their property. Americans will live peacefully with those coming here willing to live by our Constitution. A community looking to pass religious law, especially Islamic, or expect more than due by law... would not go over well. And our appreciation for diversity when you start asking us to give our freedoms for popularity or political correctness....lol. whatever divides Americans...we will unite on this the way we did the Cold War.

 

[iamsharky789]

The bells are part of the church. If they have something similar attached to their place of worship... I cannot see a problem. Church bells ring like dinner bells...from their home on their property. Americans will live peacefully with those coming here willing to live by our Constitution. A community looking to pass religious law, especially Islamic, or expect more than due by law... would not go over well. And our appreciation for diversity when you start asking us to give our freedoms for popularity or political correctness....lol. whatever divides Americans...we will unite on this the way we did the Cold War.

They are easily removable and speakers are easily installable outside the mosques. Picking one over the other is the reason why the speakers are being allowed since the bells are being allowed. This thread shows that many americans are not opposed to the speakers. The constitution does not prohibit muslim call for prayer nor does it allow church bells to disturb people.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

For me it would depend on the proximity and volume. I like church bells even though not a Christian or church goer. And even though I'm not a big fan of Islam...I kinda like the call to prayer too.

If the rest of the community voted for it, Muslim and non-Muslim, I would probably go along. If it smelled like motivation was a form of claiming/flag-planting... not so much.

If they voted on it? You have no idea you live in a Republic or what that means. You do not vote to allow or restrict religious freedom. And I'll go along with the community.... ugh. Conflicted....do I cry or vomit?

 

[iamsharky789]

If they voted on it? You have no idea you live in a Republic or what that means. You do not vote to allow or restrict religious freedom. And I'll go along with the community.... ugh. Conflicted....do I cry or vomit?

So a bell can ring all day and night if they wanted?

 

[Sees]

If they voted on it? You have no idea you live in a Republic or what that means. You do not vote to allow or restrict religious freedom. And I'll go along with the community.... ugh. Conflicted....do I cry or vomit?

Calm your self.

You do not know the noise ordinance for every city or township, nor the different ways they are ran all together.

I don't need lessons on American government.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

They are easily removable and speakers are easily installable outside the mosques. Picking one over the other is the reason why the speakers are being allowed since the bells are being allowed. This thread shows that many americans are not opposed to the speakers. The constitution does not prohibit muslim call for prayer nor does it allow church bells to disturb people.

Read what I wrote again and quit assuming. I said bells, buzzers, whistle, whatever... ring the bells you bought on the church you pay the mortgage to on your land. Whistle or buzz and call on Muslims to pray with your sound system you bought on your mosque on your property. I will always support freedom. Always. Christians opposing homosexual marriage are fighting a losing battle. Muslims can come practice their faith within the bounds of our law. You try to legislate your religion or idea of morality here and you're going to reckon with the spirit of America.

 

[iamsharky789]

Read what I wrote again and quit assuming. I said bells, buzzers, whistle, whatever... ring the bells you bought on the church you pay the mortgage to on your land. Whistle or buzz and call on Muslims to pray with your sound system you bought on your mosque on your property. I will always support freedom. Always. Christians opposing homosexual marriage are fighting a losing battle. Muslims can come practice their faith within the bounds of our law. You try to legislate your religion or idea of morality here and you're going to reckon with the spirit of America.

Your not getting it and are beating around the bush to say your point. But to help you, a bell in a community makes enough noise that it covers a good breadth of area. It isn't just some kid whistling on their porch.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

Calm your self.

You do not know the noise ordinance for every city or township, nor the different ways they are ran all together.

I don't need lessons on American government.

Yeah you do. Your comment had nothing to do with voting on a decibal level for noise. You really thought a vote determines free exercise of religion. It is a RIGHT. And the amazing thing about a Republic is individual freedom and rights. We have a democratic voting system. We are NOT a democracy. A democracy is mob rule and a horrible idea.
You can graduate with honors in America after 13 years of education and not know that. Your government doesn't want you to.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

Your not getting it and are beating around the bush to say your point. But to help you, a bell in a community makes enough noise that it covers a good breadth of area. It isn't just some kid whistling on their porch.

So you are ok with a prayer bell attached to the town courthouse? Who pays for it? Who rings it? Lol. Ring your Jew bell. Ring your Muslim bell. Ring your Catholic bell. Baptist bell. Athiest bell. You pay for it and put it on your land.

 

[iamsharky789]

So you are ok with a prayer bell attached to the town courthouse? Who pays for it? Who rings it? Lol. Ring your Jew bell. Ring your Muslim bell. Ring your Catholic bell. Baptist bell. Athiest bell. You pay for it and put it on your land.

I might just do that!!! I would like to see your reaction to a couple muslim families move in your community and set up some speakers so that five times a day, your can hear it and embrace it, just because they paid for it.

 

[Sees]

Yeah you do. Your comment had nothing to do with voting on a decibal level for noise. You really thought a vote determines free exercise of religion. It is a RIGHT. And the amazing thing about a Republic is individual freedom and rights. We have a democratic voting system. We are NOT a democracy. A democracy is mob rule and a horrible idea.
You can graduate with honors in America after 13 years of education and not know that. Your government doesn't want you to.

Are you talking about what is right/lawful or what should be right/lawful in your opinion? Free exercise of religion doesn't trump all laws and ordinances. Freedom and rights always have limitations.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I wouldn't care. Muslim calls to prayer and church bells are always a lot nicer than gunshots, people yelling at each other (a lot of the time, where I live, it's not even in English!), car alarms and blaring car stereos. I heard church bells in my room at the apartment I used to live at and thought it was lovely. Now I hear gunshots and police helicopters!

City people really have no room to be complaining about noise and should just be quiet when it comes to this. Lol.

"Ring your Jew bell." Lmao!