Muslim call of prayer in your community?

[Smart_Guy]

What do you mean by a negative reply? I think I may not understand.

I meant that you would not accept my apology. I didn't mean anything bad.

 

[Assad91]

Why is that hate? I would rather hear wild animals breed than fundies with bullhorns. I will defend their freedom for the sake of my own and I don't hate them. I pity them. Americans are that way mostly. Play on our desire to dwell in peace despite our differences... challenge our freedoms... think we are kind to a fault and foolish enough not to recognize a threat...and you have made a huge mistake. We tolerate Muslims and can live with a variety of cultures and races. We are not France. We are not the Netherlands. Threaten our freedom and you will see a unification of American spirit that sent the British home and preserved the freedoms we fight and die for.

This is way too southern bred patriotic. Like that creepy 8 th grade history teacher I had.

 

[Assad91]

And I'd say comparing azan to the sound of breeding animals is hateful. You're degrading something of gay significance to grunts of animals.

Like that sign in NYC which , had the message of, Muslims are savaged beast.

Going on with the hoorara murica '76 y'all is just off topic nonsense.

 

[YmirGF]

And I'd say comparing azan to the sound of breeding animals is hateful. You're degrading something of gay significance to grunts of animals.

If it was in a truly beautiful language, like French or Italian, then perhaps, but Arabic and Hebrew are less than a thrill to the ears of many.

Like that sign in NYC which , had the message of, Muslims are savaged beast.

But the, now famous, Geller Transit Ad, didn't specify Muslims. Clearly, it specified Jihadi's... you know, the self-described folks killing in the name of Allah... Just sayin'. Why is distorting the message acceptable? Because it is an uncomfortable message for some Muslims?

 

[Juhurka]

If muslims wanted to have sound speakers installed in your community for the purpose of calling for prayer, would you be opposed or accepting to it.

This thread was inspired by a recent conversation with a person who used to live in Hamtrack. He said there is a large bengali-muslim and polish-christian population in that city. The muslims want the call of prayer installed but the christian population are against it. The muslims are comparing the call of prayer to church bells though they are not quite similar in nature. I am opposed to anything that is affiliated with noise coming out of these crazies institutions. I am opposed to my alarm clock in the morning too but that is one pestering thing I can deal with.

Basically when do religious rights stop when it comes to personal rights. If the bells bother you, do you just move or do your fight back? This issue goes a little big deeper because the Government of that city just had recently the first muslim board member. Now there is a shift in politics so for those who think that it should be in accordance to the law, the law can change. So if it is a 50/50 split in population adn religion but the Pols were there first, should the Bengalis be allowed to set up their speakers?

It would really depend on the culture, if majority of the population is not Muslim they should have the right not to allow muslim prayer calling just like in a city or country dominated by Muslim culture, church bells would be out of place. It might not be tolerant but its fair and saves lives, liberal ideas have proven to be a mistake and now are dead just ask the Europeans an their Muslim immigrants.

By the way, I was never able to understand liberals who no matter what defend immigrants, its not the host who has to accommodate the guest, it is the guest who has to make sure to act according to the local culture, if he does not like it he is free to leave.

 

[iamsharky789]

It would really depend on the culture, if majority of the population is not Muslim they should have the right not to allow muslim prayer calling just like in a city or country dominated by Muslim culture, church bells would be out of place. It might not be tolerant but its fair and saves lives, liberal ideas have proven to be a mistake and now are dead just ask the Europeans an their Muslim immigrants.

By the way, I was never able to understand liberals who no matter what defend immigrants, its not the host who has to accommodate the guest, it is the guest who has to make sure to act according to the local culture, if he does not like it he is free to leave.

That is where you are confused. Immigrants are not "guests." Most come to permanently live and stay. Asking people to completely assimilate is very hitler-esq. We are all immigrants. I just don't think that the church bells should be allowed exclusively.

 

[YmirGF]

I just don't think that the church bells should be allowed excessively.

Even though bells sound lovely...

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The spirit of 1776 is dead? No. It is quite alive and well. We are the most unique and diverse country in the world and I love and respect that. But we cling to a spirit of freedom that began in 1776 and thrives today.

If you think the American Revolution was about freedom or diversity, then you have a very warped view of history.

... though this is probably a topic for another thread.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

This is way too southern bred patriotic. Like that creepy 8 th grade history teacher I had.

Southern bred patriotism? Which is remarkably different from New York patriotism or mid west patroitism? How?
People sometimes buy into the stereotypes of the south portrayed in media and such.... Atlanta/metro area is a hugely diverse city, quite cultured and rapidly growing.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

And I'd say comparing azan to the sound of breeding animals is hateful. You're degrading something of gay significance to grunts of animals.

Like that sign in NYC which , had the message of, Muslims are savaged beast.

Going on with the hoorara murica '76 y'all is just off topic nonsense.

Who was this comment addressed to?

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

If you think the American Revolution was about freedom or diversity, then you have a very warped view of history.

... though this is probably a topic for another thread.

I think our Constitution, "spirit of 1776" is quite devoted to protect and identify our liberties and freedoms. The Revolution and desire for independence are how and why it was born. It began as a protest against taxation with no representation.

 

[4consideration]

If you think the American Revolution was about freedom or diversity, then you have a very warped view of history.

... though this is probably a topic for another thread.

I think something glitchy happened in the quote in post #88. It seems to be showing a different poster's name associated with the quote than the one that actually posted it. I think you meant to quote post #61.

 

[Smart_Guy]

If you think the American Revolution was about freedom or diversity, then you have a very warped view of history.

... though this is probably a topic for another thread.

I believe you (or the system) misquoted. I didn't say that...

I think something glitchy happened in the quote in post #88. It seems to be showing a different poster's name associated with the quote than the one that actually posted it. I think you meant to quote post #61.

Yeah...

I indeed have a very warped view of history

Maybe it's a glitch to welcome the new year

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I think our Constitution, "spirit of 1776" is quite devoted to protect and identify our liberties and freedoms. The Revolution and desire for independence are how and why it was born. It began as a protest against taxation with no representation.

So that we don't pull this thread off-topic, I've started a new thread about this:

http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...ican-revolution-really-about.html#post3620249

 

[iamsharky789]

Even though bells sound lovely...

Then listen to them in your home.

 

[Tarheeler]

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