Muslim woman & girl gang-raped and beaten by Hindus for eating beef

[Godobeyer]

Hi Godo. My experience is that no matter what approach I take, apologists deflect the criticism. Do you know what a "shell game" is? It seems to me that apologists have a set of "shell game" strategies to attempt to deflect criticism. You just used one.

You were not fair in your criticism, since you put whole the blame on Muslims and ignore the Western internventions, and you always used generalizing strategies.

It's like you blame the trees that fired up, but you don't blame who was responsible who fire up the trees.

 

[FearGod]

If there is a law duly instituted by the legislature of that state that cow-slaughter will be considered a crime, then the residents of that state have to follow that law. Actually, there is a direction in the Indian Constitution that gradually cow-slaughter should be stopped. Muslims were part of the Constituent Assembly which made our constitution. So, they should honor it.

Lynching of Ashfaq in the village was a crime, it does not matter if it was for beef or any other thing. People cannot take the law in their hand whatever be the reason. At least five people are in custody for that crime and the case is going on.

It's because of Hinduism that they did the crime, they raped and killed an innocent woman for no crime
but eating beef, and someone liked your post!!

 

[icehorse]

You were not fair in your criticism, since you put whole the blame on Muslims and ignore the Western internventions, and you always used generalizing strategies.

It's like you blame the trees that fired up, but you don't blame who was responsible who fire up the trees.

For the sake of discussion, for just this moment, let's say you're correct.

So changing gears: Godo, tell us a few problems that you see with Islam?

 

[Godobeyer]

For the sake of discussion, for just this moment, let's say you're correct.

So changing gears: Godo, tell us a few problems that you see with Islam?

Of course I am correct.

I don't see problem with Islam, there is problem with some Muslims.

and There is major problem, which is cause of whole problems of Muslims today, which was Western interventions.

 

[FearGod]

This thread collect most anti-Muslims, its will make a record !

And they'll say nothing bad about Hinduism, if about Islam and Muslims then
they'll show you verses and hadiths and anti Muslim websites.

 

[icehorse]

Of course I am correct.

I don't see problem with Islam, there is problem with some Muslims.

and There is major problem, which is cause of whole problems of Muslims today, which was Western interventions.

Thanks for your honest response Godo. And this summarizes our ongoing debates nicely.

 

[McBell]

Why to blame him when the headline says
Woman and girl ‘gang-raped as punishment for eating beef’

He said something true in post #8, if Muslims did it then the headlines will mention
Muslims, not only that but it will add Muslim terrorists did so and so, this is the truth,
then why we need to hide it, i know it's hard with some to agree with Muslims in any thing.

because he is the one who started the Muslim are terrorists crap in a thread about Hindus.
So you are wrong that it was page three of four.
Hells bells, he couldn't even wait to get half way through the first page before trying to martyr himself.

 

[McBell]

You were not fair in your criticism, since you put whole the blame on Muslims and ignore the Western internventions, and you always used generalizing strategies.

It's like you blame the trees that fired up, but you don't blame who was responsible who fire up the trees.

It is sad that Muslims let the west lead them by the nose.

 

[Godobeyer]

It is sad that Muslims let the west lead them by the nose.

Really ? you sad about that ?
Anyway,what you just said is just part of evil truth.

 

[McBell]

Really ? you sad about that ?
Anyway,what you just said is just part of evil truth.

I sincerely hope you are misunderstanding my point.

 

[Godobeyer]

I sincerely hope you are misunderstanding my point.

So you mean the opposite ?

No body force USA to intervented in Muslims business. maybe its was about oil.

 

[McBell]

So you mean the opposite ?

No body force USA to intervented in Muslims business. maybe its was about oil.

Do you even read the posts before you reply?

 

[Godobeyer]

Do you even read the posts before you reply?

Yes.

So you pretend that I did not understand you,again?

 

[FearGod]

It is sad that Muslims let the west lead them by the nose.

It should happen because it's the sign of end times that Muslims will follow them step by step in a stupid way.

“Allah's Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: 'You will indeed follow the ways of those before you, hand span by hand span, and an arms length after another. Even if they enter into a lizard’s hole, you will follow them.’ We (the Sahaba) asked, ‘Is it the Jews and the Christians?’ He replied, ‘Who else!’” [Bukhari]
http://dailyhadith.adaptivesolutionsinc.com/hadith/Defeated-Nations.htm

 

[McBell]

Yes.

So you pretend that I did not understand you,again?

So it is your claim that you do understand?
That you think Muslims are so weak minded that they cannot make up their own minds?
That you think Muslims are so weak willed that the west can lead them around by the nose?

Makes sense really, that you believe that.
I mean, with your unhealthy need to be a martyr.

 

[McBell]

It should happen because it's the sign of end times that Muslims will follow them step by step in a stupid way.

“Allah's Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: 'You will indeed follow the ways of those before you, hand span by hand span, and an arms length after another. Even if they enter into a lizard’s hole, you will follow them.’ We (the Sahaba) asked, ‘Is it the Jews and the Christians?’ He replied, ‘Who else!’” [Bukhari]
http://dailyhadith.adaptivesolutionsinc.com/hadith/Defeated-Nations.htm

To bad Muslims aren't any stronger willed than that.

 

[Godobeyer]

So it is your claim that you do understand?
That you think Muslims are so weak minded that they cannot make up their own minds?
That you think Muslims are so weak willed that the west can lead them around by the nose?

Makes sense really, that you believe that.
I mean, with your unhealthy need to be a martyr.

It's seems turned the speech to take the highway of blah blah.

The West used some allies Muslims (king of oil) to intervention , to protect the oil sources and change not allie regimes by name of spreading "democraty".

When a regimes like Saudi Arabia and Kuwiet hire armies to fight/defend for them,that's really shame for both (kings of oil and West).

 

[FearGod]

To bad Muslims aren't any stronger willed than that.

Than what? how to change something that God wanted it to happen?

 

[columbus]

It should happen because it's the sign of end times that Muslims will follow them step by step in a stupid way.

I think that this is very evil. The teaching that people will do terrible things because God wants to bring about the End Days is profoundly evil.
Tom

 

[David1967]

My thoughts:

If it's against the law to kill cows, don't kill cows.
If someone eats beef when it's against the law, don't gang rape them.

Really. Just what was about someone eating beef that made these animals so sex crazed. Are they so sexually excited by someone eating a cow that they would rape them to death?