Muslim woman & girl gang-raped and beaten by Hindus for eating beef

[Aupmanyav]

Now lets be reasonable.There is no law that prevents one from eating beef.You can slaughter it in one State and bring it into another State. Is it a crime to eat beef in India?

Farouq, why do not you read the Wikipedia page on beef in India at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_slaughter_in_India. That is where the law stands at present. It can be changed by our state lagislators and parliamentarians. In many places transport of beef is a crime. In 7 states, there is no ban on beef, to eat or to transport, while in 22 states, there are varying rules about slaughter of cows and transport of beef. Where the lynching happened (Uttar Pradesh) the punishment is 2 years in jail and fine of Rs. 1,000 (USD 15), and where the rape is supposed to have happened (Haryana, it is yet not proved to have happened), the punishment is 5 years in jail and a fine of Rs. 5,000 (USD 75).

I am not a supporter of cow-slaughter. I think that is against economics. In a state where beef eating is permitted, the number of cows has increased hugely because keeping cows is economically viable. In states where cow-slaughter is banned (Haryana and Uttar Pradesh), the number of cows has decreased drastically because keeping them is economically unviable. Moreover, if one can eat buffalo meat, pork, fish and chicken, I see no reason why beef should be disallowed. I am a non-vegetarian and would have liked to taste beef. Similarly, I am not in favour of a liquor ban, though I am in favour of strict rules about drunken behavior. Three states ban liquor totally - Gujarat, Bihar and Nagaland (which is one of our Christian majority states). Indian liquor laws are given here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_India#Law

 

[Aupmanyav]

It's because of Hinduism that they did the crime, they raped and killed an innocent woman for no crime
but eating beef, and someone liked your post!!

Yeah, people will like my posts because I am brutally frank. Kindly note that the said rape is an allegation and not something that has been proved to have happened. Why did it happen only after the seven biryani samples were proved to contain beef? I smell a fish.

 

[Deidre]

It seems like the whole world these days is going mad. Or was it always mad?

 

[Madhuri]

It seems like the whole world these days is going mad. Or was it always mad?

It's always been mad. Humans are ridiculous creatures.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Not the first time and not the last time some innocent women are going to be gang raped in India. Just what it is.

Rape was not common in India even in my childhood (I am 74 year old). It became common after old traditions and power structures (kings and nawabs) were discarded and power went to elected people (which means majority caste in any area, most Indians unfortunately vote according to caste). These elected people have done as they have liked, in management of money as well as in matters of sex. They can manipulate the police which is under their control. It is democracy which has spawned lawlessness in India.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It seems like the whole world these days is going mad. Or was it always mad?

It's always been a mess. But it's actually better now than it ever has been.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Rape was not common in India even in my childhood (I am 74 year old). It became common after old traditions and power structures (kings and nawabs) were discarded and power went to elected people (which means majority caste in any area, most Indians unfortunately vote according to caste). These elected people have done as they have liked, in management of money as well as in matters of sex. They can manipulate the police which is under their control. It is democracy which has spawned lawlessness in India.

Sources to back that claim up?

 

[Aupmanyav]

So in Hinduism eating beef is a crime, yes or no

In Hinduism eating beef is against religion - 'adharmic' (like eating pork is with Muslims). It becomes a crime after a state legislature decides by majority to have a law like that. And if it becomes law, then whether you like it or not, it has to be followed. 'Prohibited in religion' and 'punishable by law' are two different things.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

In Hinduism eating beef is against religion - 'adharmic' (like eating pork is with Muslims). It becomes a crime after a state legislature decides by majority to have a law like that. And if it becomes law, then whether you like it or not, it has to be followed. 'Prohibited in religion' and 'punishable by law' are two different things.

Depends on the form of Hinduism. Hinduism isn't one religion. Bengali Shaktism, which predominately worships Kali, wouldn't really give a toss about dietary restrictions and they don't tend to care about codes of purity or the Brahamical traditions.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Sources to back that claim up?

Ten-fold increase since 1970. It was even less at the time I was born (1942).
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=rape+in+india&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1LENP_enIN576IN576&espv=2&biw=1455&bih=700&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjg4crG75LPAhUEHZQKHXKrBnQQ_AUICCgD#newwindow=1&tbm=isch&q=rape+in+india+statistics&imgrc=qUhGDziMFqXAbM:

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

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Ten-fold increase since 1970. It was even less at the time I was born (1942).
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=rape+in+india&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1LENP_enIN576IN576&espv=2&biw=1455&bih=700&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjg4crG75LPAhUEHZQKHXKrBnQQ_AUICCgD#newwindow=1&tbm=isch&q=rape+in+india+statistics&imgrc=qUhGDziMFqXAbM:

Is the rate of rapes actually rising or is the reporting of rape what is rising?

 

[Aupmanyav]

There is more reporting of rapes in the last two years (after the December Delhi rapes when the laws were changed), but the incidents of rapes also have increased greatly (Delhi and Uttar Pradesh being the worst. In Delhi, we have seen more attacks on children even below 8 years of age). There are also cases of false reporting (he was promising marriage, I indulged willingly in sex. But now he is refusing to marry me, so it is rape). Sure, a funny statement and the Courts are not going to be impressed by that.

 

[SomeRandom]

IOW, don't blame Hinduism.

Eating beef might not be permitted in many sects but raping and beating someone to death is prohibited by ALL sects. And common human decency.
Unless you can cite the exact teaching within Hinduism that supports such actions? I certainly can't think of any. Even in war such actions are dishonourable and disgusting.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Even in war such actions are dishonourable and disgusting.

Yes, that is not allowed even in case of war. No cruelty to women or children. We do not have the concept of 'maal-e-ghanimat'. Even in case of men, we follow Geneva convention. During the Bangladesh war, 91,000 Pakistani soldiers surrendered to us.

On the afternoon of 16th December, 1971 the Chief of Pakistani army Lieutenant General Niyazi and the Chief of the combined military Lieutenant General Jagjit Singh Arora (Sikh) signed a document of surrender at the Race Course ground of Dhaka. Also in the photo, Major General JRF Jacob (Jew), Commander of the Eastern Forces.The Indian Army at that time was led by General (later Field Marshal) Manekshaw (Zoroastrian). Heard of any army like that?

 

[FearGod]

No. It is sinful, but there is no religious law against it. The law is man-made.

But what motivate the Hindus to kill a Muslim for eating beef, this make them much
worse than Saudi Arabia in imposing hijab on all women regardless of their beliefs,
at least in Saudi Arabia they won't kill them for not wearing hijab.

This is a barbaric act which is supported by the Hindus which makes eating beef as a crime,
man-made or evil-made makes no difference to me as it pollutes the whole religion
once its followers in general are following such silly thing.

Making excuses for it making no sense as well, wrong is wrong and such stupid things should
be ended, I wonder how some defend Hinduism and blame the evil.

Raping and killing for eating beef and then the one who did it wasn't a true Hindus.

 

[Godobeyer]

Ah.
So you in fact do not understand.
Your claiming gibberish gave you away.

For claiming that we don't understand each other,it's just represent your failure.
I do understand your anti-Muslim which mixed with arrogance and it's not secret here.

 

[Knight of Albion]

Religious murder and rape are old, very old, and have no place in today's world. God grant that they pass quickly.

I was profoundly moved by this scene from the movie Gandhi which portrays the way out of the hell we've created:

I remember it well. Quite wonderful.

We are all one, man and animals too. May peace prevail on earth.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

But what motivate the Hindus to kill a Muslim for eating beef, this make them much
worse than Saudi Arabia in imposing hijab on all women regardless of their beliefs

A small number of Hindus (assuming they identified as such) committed a crime (although rape is something of a problem in India at the moment). Rather different from the actions of a state.

This is a barbaric act which is supported by the Hindus which makes eating beef as a crime

How is it supported by Hindus??? Because the consumption of beef in some Indian states has been made a crime??? (Remember also that 'Hinduism' is not the same thing as Indian federal or state law)

man-made or evil-made makes no difference to me as it pollutes the whole religion

What exactly pollutes the whole religion?

once its followers in general are following such silly thing.

What silly thing are you referring to?

 

[McBell]

For claiming that we don't understand each other,it's just represent your failure.
I do understand your anti-Muslim which mixed with arrogance and it's not secret here.

damn.
So you don't understand after all.

moors the pity.

 

[FearGod]

A small number of Hindus (assuming they identified as such) committed a crime (although rape is something of a problem in India at the moment). Rather different from the actions of a state.

I'm not just speaking about rape, but about punishing people for eating beef, it isn't only a one case, just
search and see how many crimes were committed for eating beef

How is it supported by Hindus??? Because the consumption of beef in some Indian states has been made a crime??? (Remember also that 'Hinduism' is not the same thing as Indian federal or state law)

By forcing the others as not to eat beef, it's up to them not to eat beef but why forcing the others and
even killing them for eating beef.

What exactly pollutes the whole religion?

Forcing other people not to eat beef is bad and barbaric, that is polluting Hinduism.

What silly thing are you referring to?

The Hindus do agree that those who eat beef should be punished and applying this on
other religions is what I call as silly.