"Muslims in Spain declare Jihad on dogs."

[Father Heathen]

Thanks for all the reasons guns ought to be outlawed..........

So how exactly is protecting oneself, one's loved ones and one's property a bad thing?

 

[tariqkhwaja]

The following are verses of the Quran that Salafis should ponder upon before they wrongly impose their religion on others:

[5:5] They ask thee what is made lawful for them. Say, ‘All good things have been made lawful for you; and what you have taught the beasts and birds of prey to catch for you, training them for hunting and teaching them of what Allah has taught you. So eat of that which they catch for you, and pronounce thereon the name of Allah. And fear Allah. Surely, Allah is quick in reckoning.’

[18:19] Thou mightest deem them awake, whilst they are asleep; and We shall cause them to turn over to the right and to the left, their dog stretching out his forelegs on the threshold. If thou hadst had a look at them, thou wouldst surely have turned away from them in fright, and wouldst surely have been filled with awe of them.

[18:23] Some say, ‘They were three, the fourth was their dog,’ and others say, ‘They were five, the sixth was their dog,’ guessing at random. And yet others say, ‘They were seven, the eighth was their dog.’ Say, ‘My Lord knows best their number. None knows them except a few.’ So argue not concerning them except with arguing that is overpowering, nor seek information about them from any one of them.

The dogs protected the people mentioned in the last two verses. Obviously the Qura'an speaks favorably of using dogs as pets.

Also, it would do well for the OP to consider this as part of the larger argument instead of only focusing on the extremists in Islam.

 

[outhouse]

Also, it would do well for the OP to consider this as part of the larger argument instead of only focusing on the extremists in Islam.

I think it would be great to focus on the safety of the people and dogs in spain

jihad on a pet is not really a extremist thing, its a geographic cultural issue that needs to be addressed

 

[Falvlun]

I thought the problem wasn't with the displays themselves, but rather with the use of public (tax payer) land to display them.

I think it is done in the same spirit and expectation that the rest of the populace change to accommodate their own particular beliefs.

 

[Photonic]

I actually wasn't but what ever....

The idea of folks taking gun and going after muslims who they perceive to have killed dogs bothered me. so I responded. I won't be back to this forum again.

You perceive a lot of things that aren't there. The insult to your person and a manhunt for Muslims.

Perhaps if you stopped taking everything like a personal affront and attempt to have the content clarified you might not encounter this issue in communication.

 

[Father Heathen]

I won't be back to this forum again.

Wow. A little touchy are we?

 

[Storm]

Also, it would do well for the OP to consider this as part of the larger argument instead of only focusing on the extremists in Islam.

What's the larger argument?

 

[gnostic]

Muslims in Spain Declare Jihad on Dogs :: Hudson New York

What are your thoughts on this? Such audacious arrogance is astounding. What makes such immigrants think that the local culture is obligated to make compromises and concessions in order to accommodate their arbitrary whims? They demand respect and reverence for their own culture while at the same time trying to destroy the culture of others. And of course, those who don't roll over and give in to their demands are labelled "islamophobes" or some similar silliness.

I'd say that those Muslims can go back to whatever country (countries) they came from.

I am actually sick of immigrants (coming to Australia) with Muslim background demanding special rights, simply because they are Muslims. If they can't accept the rights already granted to every citizens, then they should leave.

 

[Photonic]

When will Muslims begin declaring jihad on jihad?

 

[Rakhel]

I would be more concerned with them declaring jihad on Fatwa, a bodega in Brownsville NY. They serve the most awesome pastrami sammiches.

 

[Father Heathen]

I'd say that those Muslims can go back to whatever country (countries) they came from.

I am actually sick of immigrants (coming to Australia) with Muslim background demanding special rights, simply because they are Muslims. If they can't accept the rights already granted to every citizens, then they should leave.

Exactly. It's beyond arrogant to expect dog owners to make sacrifices solely to humor their nonsensical superstition. What business do they have migrating to a country if they're incapable of respecting and adapting to it's culture? No one owes them anything.

 

[tariqkhwaja]

What's the larger argument?

That though some Muslims believe in Jihad against dogs but it is interesting to note that the Quran actually supports dogs as pets. For there is only one mention of dogs used to secure residences in the Quran and it is used in a positive manner.

 

[Storm]

That though some Muslims believe in Jihad against dogs but it is interesting to note that the Quran actually supports dogs as pets. For there is only one mention of dogs used to secure residences in the Quran and it is used in a positive manner.

But the point of the OP was "some Muslims." Nobody claimed it was all Muslims. So, there is no larger argument.

 

[tariqkhwaja]

But the point of the OP was "some Muslims." Nobody claimed it was all Muslims. So, there is no larger argument.

Yes but when it comes to Islam people tend to focus on the "some" extremist Muslims so many times that the general impression becomes "most". Furthermore the fact that a directly opposing viewpoint (which I believe to be fact) exists (and can be easily found by googling dogs in Quran) is not stated.

These things matter. Islam suffers from several attacks in the media so it is appreciable if the full story is told.

 

[Flankerl]

Muslims in Spain Declare Jihad on Dogs :: Hudson New York

What are your thoughts on this? Such audacious arrogance is astounding. What makes such immigrants think that the local culture is obligated to make compromises and concessions in order to accommodate their arbitrary whims? They demand respect and reverence for their own culture while at the same time trying to destroy the culture of others. And of course, those who don't roll over and give in to their demands are labelled "islamophobes" or some similar silliness.

Welcome to europe.

Some immigrants from certain parts of the world turn very religious/crazy when they arrive.

 

[not nom]

When will Muslims begin declaring jihad on jihad?

we herd you like jihad, so we made jihad against jihad, that way you can struggle against struggle while you struggle.

 

[not nom]

Welcome to europe.

Some immigrants from certain parts of the world turn very religious/crazy when they arrive.

welcome to spain, too :/

Animal Cruelty in Spain

do these dogs look like they need more enemies?

I know this isn't exactly helpful, but I have a huge peeve regarding spain and animal abuse.

Dogs in Spain face barbaric hanging - Telegraph

This is the undignified end that awaits hundreds of greyhounds at the end of the hare coursing season in Spain, an investigation by a British animal welfare group has found. The dogs, known as galgos, are killed in a variety of brutal ways, according to how well they have raced. Poor performers are hung low to ensure a slow death.

This ritual is known, among those who inflict such cruelty, as "the piano player" or "the secretary" - because the dogs' frantic scrabbling of their legs in a vain attempt to avoid choking is thought to resemble the actions of a pianist or a busy typist.

and on La Gomera, where I spent a big chunk of my life, apparently old donkeys were just shoved down the hill to die. and poison for cats and dogs? part of life there, and not a muslim in sight.

 

[not nom]

These things matter. Islam suffers from several attacks in the media so it is appreciable if the full story is told.

Implement legislation for animal protection in Spain

So far, each Spanish region has its own legislation for animal protection, some had none until very recently (Andalusia for instance) and the laws are seldom taken into consideration although the abuses are shocking up and down the land. Even when the SEPRONA, the excellent arm of the police that deals with environment and animal abuse, investigates and reports that prosecution is needed, the authorities act slowly or not at all.

that's the big picture. bah.

I'll sue Spanish for donkey cruelty, says animal lover - Telegraph

Since 1986, Mr Svendsen has been punched, kicked and spat on by the crowd during his attempts to protect the Villanueva donkeys.

A spokesman for the region's tourism department said: "We will not bow to pressure from animal welfare activists. This is our tradition and that will continue."

and so on.... seriously, fanatics could murder 5000 pet dogs, and torture each of them, and it wouldn't really make a difference. I call bull and hypocrisy. make laws against animal abuse, and that would also take care of that "dog jihad". until then, **** spain.

 

[LeftishBritInPA]

Ridiculous. I love dogs.

Some people really need to grow the hell up and stop looking at things to get offended about.

 

[Father Heathen]

Welcome to europe.

Some immigrants from certain parts of the world turn very religious/crazy when they arrive.

What is it about European societies that makes them submit and roll over to the demands of religious fundamentalist immigrants? Why would they surrender their own rights, liberty and way of life? Will they continue to give in until they have nothing left? How did they become so servile and mewling?