Muslims the least educated in the world?

[ShivaFan]

thanks for this enlighting ,

btw is least educated nation could less criminal ? it's could be yes and could be no .

i am not provoke here , i just post an opinion :
USA had good education , but it's had high rate in crimes , how you explain that contradiction ?

I would not agree that US education is the best, atleast not here in California. It is not horrible either, but isn't great and is often straight jackeded by leftwing lunes. Giving more money to school administrators here has been proven as not the answer. And I say that in the perspective that my wife works as a sub-teacher for several years now.

I do notice that there are not very many Middle Eastern and Arab people in my field of high technology, not sure the reason for this. I think education in the UAE is quite good.

As far as crime, in the US, I can speak only for California and personally I consider crime a number one issue and I think it will be an issue in the 2016 election as it was in 1968-69. My gut tells me so from emails from others, comments on the street etc even if the legacy media does not report this concern. I am totally sick of the gangs, thugs, attitude, home invasions, gang grafitti, et all. I think there is good cause for capital punishment even though I am very peaceful. I am now using technology to protect my family and home.

 

[icehorse]

I'd agree that the sad state of US public schools is an important topic. And 36th or 38th or something in the world sounds about right. But typically we see that the more secular countries dominate the "best education" lists. And we see that theocratic-esque countries do worse.

 

[beenie]

I'd agree that the sad state of US public schools is an important topic. And 36th or 38th or something in the world sounds about right. But typically we see that the more secular countries dominate the "best education" lists. And we see that theocratic-esque countries do worse.

Agree.

 

[outhouse]

I'd agree that the sad state of US public schools is an important topic. And 36th or 38th or something in the world sounds about right. But typically we see that the more secular countries dominate the "best education" lists. And we see that theocratic-esque countries do worse.

Why do you think this is ?


Part of it would be YEC fight to keep mythology in school?


Part of it might be it is used as day care while a very busy culture works too much, and they do very well without the education that is required to do well in other countries.

Just a thought.

 

[outhouse]

Really? I was just thinking how similar the situations are. Quite a lot of Latin America isn't very safe at all.

I feel much safer in Lima Peru, then Sacramento at night walking down the street.

mexico has become a nightmare because of the drug cartels.


I think the majority of South America follow Peru's culture pretty closely.

 

[outhouse]

it would still remain to be seen whether Islam was a significant cause of such a low rate of literacy.

Im not sure either, it was posed as a question in the OP.

It definitely affects some aspects of history and science.


The same way if we were a YEC ran nation.

As for myself, I don't know enough to say one way or the other.

fair enough

 

[outhouse]

Don't worry much about rants against Islam btw.

Well deserved actually.


Your religion is headlines for barbaric and primitive actions almost daily.

It owns the crown for king of terrorism and world violence.


Its my opinion its due to the required fanaticism and fundamentalism.


You can wish to fix the religion, or you can ignore the barbarianism fanaticism breeds.

 

[Tabb]

Why do you think this is ?


Part of it would be YEC fight to keep mythology in school?


Part of it might be it is used as day care while a very busy culture works too much, and they do very well without the education that is required to do well in other countries.

Just a thought.

This should be a thread in itself. You hit it right on the head with the American perception of education. It's a system that does not have the best interest of ALL its citizens in mind. If you are white and wealthy in America you can get a world class education. If you are black and poor the education you get is delivered to you like its a waste of time.

 

[outhouse]

If you are black and poor the education you get is delivered to you like its a waste of time.

To me that is a cop out.

I lived very poor and on my own, and have dug out from the bottom.


No real education, but a desire to work hard long hours to get what I want in life.

Im not saying race is not a factor it is, and so is geographic location. But in context, you have to stay positive and not turn your back on education, and fight harder in some places to earn a decent living.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Does this lack of education promote violence and terrorism due to poverty associated with ignorance?

Does religious belief promote this lack of education?

OR does lack of education promote religious belief?


Muslim Statistics (Education and Employment) - WikiIslam)


Of the 1.4 billion Muslims 800 million are illiterate (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). In Christendom, adult literacy rate stands at 78 percent


40% of muslims can read

almost 80% of Christians can read


That is a two to one ratio.


The 57-member countries of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) have around 500 universities compared with more than 5,000 universities in the US and more than 8,000 in India.


Nearly half of all women in the Arab world are illiterate


Three-quarters of the 100 million people unable to read or write in the 21 Arab countries are aged between 15 and 45 years old, Alecso said in a statement.


Does this muslim ignorance breed terrorism???

You add this ignorance combined with the religions required fanaticism and fundamentalism, and the recipe for terrorism is obvious


Is it time for the world to address this issue and help educate these people because their own cultures do not promote education and knowledge at normal levels?

Can we even battle terrorism with education??

It would not surprise me. A religion where some of the highest ranking officials actually believe that women's boobs cause earthquakes...

Scantily-dressed women cause earthquakes, Iranian cleric says - Telegraph

Or that the idea of a round Earth is a Western anti-Islamic conspiracy...

Sheikh Bin Baz | The Economist

Wow... I certainly did not see that coming.

But then again, if we look back in history, this kind of superstitious thinking was commonplace in Christian, Jewish, and other religious circles at one time as well. The Christians and Jews seemed to have outgrown their superstitious phase (for the most part.) Maybe Islam will eventually follow suit.

 

[Tabb]

To me that is a cop out.

I lived very poor and on my own, and have dug out from the bottom.


No real education, but a desire to work hard long hours to get what I want in life.

Im not saying race is not a factor it is, and so is geographic location. But in context, you have to stay positive and not turn your back on education, and fight harder in some places to earn a decent living.

it is a cop out, but a valid one. It isn't fair that you are given lesser resources by the government for an education. Yes you can rise above it and probably end up a better person for it. However what about the ones that can't. What if you're poor black and Autistic, Dyslexic, or have ADHD. You could be poor and get up and go to school with no breakfast every morning. All those things can work against you.

 

[outhouse]

But then again, if we look back in history, this kind of superstitious thinking was commonplace in Christian, Jewish, and other religious circles at one time as well. .

Agreed

The Christians and Jews seemed to have outgrown their superstitious phase (for the most part.)

But don't kid yourself, we still have a huge YEC problem in the USA.

Maybe Islam will eventually follow suit

At their current level of education, and their tribalism and their required fanaticism and fundamentalism, its not going to happen any time soon.

They don't even recognize a problem, and fight to be left alone, its like to them addressing the problem is bashing islam, so I don't see any forward movement at all.

The rest of the world moves forward, and they want to take steps backwards.

hence me bringing up this thread.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If you are white and wealthy in America you can get a world class education. If you are black and poor the education you get is delivered to you like its a waste of time.

Then again, black, wealthy people also have this advantage over poor, white people.

 

[outhouse]

What if you're poor black and Autistic, Dyslexic, or have ADHD. You could be poor and get up and go to school with no breakfast every morning. All those things can work against you.

Actually this country has really good government funding for these type people.

Better then most, that requires family only taking care of them.


I would not place blacks in the same category as disabled people either, it sort of degrading.

 

[beenie]

It would not surprise me. A religion where some of the highest ranking officials actually believe that women's boobs cause earthquakes...

Scantily-dressed women cause earthquakes, Iranian cleric says - Telegraph

Or that the idea of a round Earth is a Western anti-Islamic conspiracy...

Sheikh Bin Baz | The Economist

Wow... I certainly did not see that coming.

The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.

But then again, if we look back in history, this kind of superstitious thinking was commonplace in Christian, Jewish, and other religious circles at one time as well. The Christians and Jews seemed to have outgrown their superstitious phase (for the most part.) Maybe Islam will eventually follow suit.

One can only hope...

 

[outhouse]

The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.

...

I think it is directly tied to where one places religion.


If you place religion before reality, you have issues.


If you place reality before religion, I have no problem with any theist, that hold any belief they choose.



YEC are a Christian example. Literalist

Orthodox literal Jews. Literalist


muslims are another. Literalist

With literalist being the common factor feeding fanaticism.


Also understanding their are different levels in each that can get some closer to reality then others.

 

[Tabb]

Actually this country has really good government funding for these type people.
Actually not as much as you may think. Especially if it is administered by inferior schools with unqualified Staff
Better then most, that require.s family only taking care of them.


I would not place blacks in the same category as disabled people either, it sort of degrading.

If you read my ambiguous remark you will see I said Black and with the a disorder.

 

[outhouse]

If you read my ambiguous remark you will see I said Black and with the a disorder.

fair enough


I have no problem standing corrected

 

[beenie]

I think it is directly tied to where one places religion.


If you place religion before reality, you have issues.


If you place reality before religion, I have no problem with any theist, that hold any belief they choose.



YEC are a Christian example. Literalist

Orthodox literal Jews. Literalist


muslims are another. Literalist

With literalist being the common factor feeding fanaticism.


Also understanding their are different levels in each that can get some closer to reality then others.

I don't disagree with this, so what's the debate?

 

[Tabb]

Then again, black, wealthy people also have this advantage over poor, white people.

Absolutely. But how many of them exist.