Let me ask you this. When the U.S. government officially tells scientists that they cannot use words like “global warming” or “climate change”, is that an example of political correctness?
Do you “hate” that kind of political correctness?
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My conscience is torn all of a sudden
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Do you “hate” that kind of political correctness?
Spiderman
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Any kind of political correctness that stops a person from speaking the truth, is indeed disgusting to me!
Any religion that professes a war on free will towards birth control and the choice of sexual partners is tolling for destruction of our free choice for humanity. The puritans are trying to control our thinking.
I'm not going to get started here...no shouting here..NuffStuff
I'm not going to get started here...no shouting here..NuffStuff
Then please speak out against this oppressive political correctness comming from the current administration, at least as much as you do about what you perceive as the failings of the previous one.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Thing is, I see the latter all the time in real life, and I find it far more unhealthy.
Anyone should be able to talk about global warming. Those who say we shouldn't are wrong in saying so.
However, it's hard to know what the facts are
Perhaps not after he assumed absolute power, but he put up with quite a lot of abuse in the early days. Mein Kampf was written from prison, after all.
Just give Trump some time....
Perhaps if you listen to American mainstream media, but do a little research and you'll find the facts are pretty clear.
It is particularly hard to know what the facts are when those facts are being covered up by the Trump administration.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
A lot of what people teach as fact is actually myth
30 Global Warming Myths vs Facts - Conserve Energy Future
People should talk about global warming, I just don't see a whole lot any of us can do to decrease the threat all that much.
However, political correctness like "Islam is a religion of peace" can easily be proven false just by reading the bloodthirsty psychopathic tortures and calls to violence in the Qur'an, Hadiths, and lifestyle of the prophet Muhammad. People that adhere to such a faith are simply not people we want in this country.
Muhammad was a bigot and a Dictator and Muslims can't say his name without saying "Peace be upon him", like he is such a sacred figure you can't even recite his name without adding a prayer. If that is their greatest hero, then the true Muslims are the ones who want to live like the terrorist Muhammad, and leftist non-muslims are very fond of defending the man and his religion. This kind of stupidity from the left is what makes Christians vote for such an unchristian figure like Trump. Political correctness is what got Trump elected. Eventually people got sick of Obama saying nonsensical stupid BS like "We shouldn't call ISIS terrorists. They hijacked a peaceful Religion".
I don't see global warming killing large amounts of people as we speak. Islam has been killing people and robbing countless millions of people of their liberties for over 1400 years. It is far more evil than global warming!
And as you well know you can find similar bloodthirsty passages in the Bible.
And was Jesus a man of peace, or a violent revolutionary? Or something in between? I don’t know, such answers are lost to history.
A religion is what the followers say it is. If Christians, Jew, or Muslims follow a way of peace, that is a peaceful religion. Whether they are being peaceful because of their holy books, or in spite of then makes no difference to me.
Your link contains a lot of misleading, incomplete and even flat-out wrong information.
Read your Bible, pay particular attention to the OT. The Quran ain't got nothin' on the Bible.
You do realize that global warming was a major contributor to the Arab Spring and subsequent war and chaos?
Islam is practiced differently in different places and at different times. You're over generalizing.
sealchan
Well-Known Member
So, still in my Trump phase and asked the Holy-Spirit for enlightenment about it.
What he seemed to have shown me was "the beauty and the beast" opening where the prince turns away the ugly beggar, and the beggar was actually beautiful in disguise and his whole mansion had a curse placed upon it, and the prince of course becomes a beast (if you have that opening scenario from the cartoon could you share it.)?
Well, it seemed Donald Trump resembles that rich prince in a mansion who turns away the beggar. The beggars of course being the poor and disenfranchised, the homeless, the drug addicts, the mentally ill, the handicapped, the Muslims, illegal immigrants etc. (I'm not convinced that the truly handicapped will have their disability taken from them however.)
But I'm not sure that moment was the spirit of God. A shepherd has to watch out for wolves in sheep's clothing. There were serial killers who would pretend to be injured or in crisis to find a victim too.
So, would Trump actually accept people into America if he had godlike qualities to know that they aren't out to harm his people or bring in drugs and gang activity. I think he would. If not, then he is an enemy of America (and charity) indeed!
But what if he is genuinely concerned about the future of our nation and the environment our children's children will be living in? There are examples of how the people he targets do indeed bring much violence, dark-aged policies, misogyny, and fear to those who love free-speech, justice, peace, women's equality, and harmony.
If that is his reason for turning away the poor needy beggars, well, that is noble. Should a Father accept a person who could be a pedophile off the streets into his home with his children, because Christ said, "I was hungry and you gave me to eat...I was a stranger and you welcomed me?..." A good shepherd doesn't have compassion for wolves and hesitates to let sheep into the fold when there are wolves in sheep's clothing wanting in.
So, what God might say on judgment day is, "I was your son, I was your daughter, and you kept rapists, thieves, drug-dealers, gangsters, and hateful lovers of dark-aged tyranny away from me. What you did for the least of my people you did for me. Come have your reward!"
"You stopped enabling lazy irresponsible drug-addicts with free handouts etc."
As much as I hate this verse, it is in the Bible: "If one does not work, they should not eat". If Trump cuts some welfare and food-stamps, he sort of is doing what the Apostle Paul preached. It could actually give people more dignity, healthy pride, independence, and joy, by motivating people to work. But Paul preached about charity to the poor and even to one's enemies as well!
I'm simply torn! I don't know what the answer is here. The Bible contradicts itself anyways! Help! Huge reward if you get this blind derelict to see the light!
If God doesn't want me to defend and promote Trump, then I don't want to. I'm divided internally on this issue as to what is God's will here!
Trump might actually think he is doing good, but the experts and the people who know better disagree. Trump also explicitly repeats conspiracy theories that have long been disproven. His first goal is not the truth, but to get attention whether good or bad and to wield power in the process.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
The Qur'an does have something on the Bible because it is much more recent than the OT, and Christians and Jews aren't enforcing barbaric old testament garbage. The Qur'an contains graphic tortures and mutilations worse than death (and worse than the Bible.) Also, Muslims still chop off hands and feet, chop of heads, crucify people, wage jihad, and stone adulterers. Christians occasionally do something wack for religious reasons, but almost all dark-aged Theocracies that enforce these barbaric practices by law are Muslim.
The New Testament says love your enemies, turn the other cheek, and Jesus said of those who crucified him, "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do".
A true Christian imitates Christ who was like Gandhi or Buddha in how non-violent and forgiving he was. True, he drove some people out of a Temple with a whip. I've been punched and stabbed. I don't care if someone whips me, and that wasn't in Christ's usual character to do anyways. Neither do we know if he left a single mark on anyone's body with that whip.
A true Muslim imitates Muhammad, who was a mass-murderer, military dictator, and pedophile. Islam is not a religion of peace and was founded on bloodshed and barbaric policies that resemble groups like ISIS. Obama was a flat out liar or extremely uneducated!
godnotgod
Thou art That
So how in the world can you support the Trump administration when they are doing everything to silence and demonize our free press, guaranteed by the Constitution?
Spiderman
Veteran Member
I don't see that at all...I see European liberals silence the people who give all the evidence for why Europe is being severely damaged and many people hurt and traumatized as the result of immigration. Trump won't let that happen!
godnotgod
Thou art That
Yeah, right...
Deuteronomy 20
Going to War
10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.
"Father, forgive us, for we know not what WE do"
godnotgod
Thou art That
You don't know that Trump is labeling the press as 'the enemy of the American people"?
..and stop diverting attention away from the subject ala Kelly-Anne Conway.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Yes, but Jesus Christ preached something totally different.Yeah, right...
Deuteronomy 20
Going to War
10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.
"Father, forgive us, for we know not what WE do"
I don't know of one Christian country that oppresses it's people like Saudi Arabia does with Dark Age theology.
The Old Testament is extremely ancient and barbaric.
Jesus led the opposite example.
godnotgod
Thou art That
B. effing S.!
Christianity has the horrific torture methods of the 400 year long Inquisition along with the Salem witch burnings to be ashamed of, torture executed in the name of 'Jesus', and 'for the good of the sinner'.
But while Muslims severely punish violators in THIS existence with temporal excruciating agony of the flesh, Christians pass the buck to their God, who has his agent, Satan, administer excruciating agony of the flesh in some forgotten hell forever and forever.
Now we have the rise of Christian Dominionists, who, if they gain power, will make ISIS look like child's play. They will have at their disposal all the latest technology for torture, interrogation, and surveillance of Christianity's 'enemies'. No one, not even Christians themselves, will escape their suspicions. On the positive side, they will eventually self-implode from rotting within, as they begin to turn one each other.
godnotgod
Thou art That
So what are you saying? That God's Word changed from the OT to the NT?
Maybe this 'Jesus Christ' was not who you think he was.
However, in Deuteronomy 20, God instructs his 'chosen people' to perform barbaric acts of destruction of the 'enemy'. But Jesus is supposed to return as a conquering general to destroy the enemies of Christianity. So really, there is no change in doctrine from the OT to the NT. 'Jesus' is really just a myth taken, in part, from a 4000 year old Indus god named Mitra, the god of covenants between man and god. Jesus came to establish a new covenant because the Jews kept breaking them, the blood sacrificial theme taken from the later Roman military god, Mithras. So where do you suppose this idea of a go between from God to man came from? From pagan Mithraism. The real man was Yeshua the Nazarene, who did not teach blood sacrifice, and whose breath based teachings were overwritten and suppressed by Paul and Rome as a device to convert the Mithraic pagans into Paul's new religion.
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Spiderman
Veteran Member
If you actually did research on the Inquisition from non-biased views, you would understand it's not as bad as present-day Islamic theocracies and the kill count was relatively low compared to the kill counts of atheist governments like the Soviet Union.
That said, I'm not a fan of Christianity.
But I think your accusations are preposterous.
Christians have gotten with the 21st century.
They will never rise to the power you say they are.
There is no Unity within Christianity.