"My Father"

[athanasius]

what about orthodoxy?

They came from us so they to share in the similar Jewish heritage.

 

[Buttons*]

because being a fleshly Jew is nolonger the deciding factor, it is a persons heart condition, and he wants people from ALL NATIONS .............. nice ......And here they are...... revelation 7;9-10

Well so he hasn't always wanted people from all nations? Kind of a fishy God if you ask me.

 

[Buttons*]

i think you will find that Jesus is the one to follow and listen too , because the most high Jehovah said listen to him .
"Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: ‘This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.’"—MATTHEW 3:17.
(Luke 9:35) And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him."

(Isaiah 42:1) Look! My servant, on whom I keep fast hold! My chosen one, [whom] my soul has approved! I have put my spirit in him. Justice to the nations is what he will bring forth.
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(2 Peter 1:17) For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when words such as these were borne to him by the magnificent glory: "This is my son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved."
(Luke 3:22) and the holy spirit in bodily shape like a dove came down upon him, and a voice came out of heaven: "You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you."

May, do you take all these things to be literal versions of the truth?

If a book told you that I was the ruler of heaven and had a few people copy down things they had read before to enforce their statement, would you believe that? My though is - nope.

 

[Inky]

If Yeshua's God was the God of the Jews, then why aren't Christians Jewish?

I would say that Christianity started as a breakoff Jewish sect, but over time it developed a long history of its own, and Judaism continued to change after Christianity split off. The worshipers kept separate enough that a change in Judaism didn't necessary affect Christian beliefs, and vice versa. By now, they're so different that it makes more sense to see them as independent religions.

 

[Free4all]

You are spiritually, that is, if you're born again.
wherefore I cry Abba, Father.

 

[may]

Well so he hasn't always wanted people from all nations? Kind of a fishy God if you ask me.

As we all know ,at one time Gods people were only fleshly litral Jews, but when Gods son was sent to earth to represent his father Jehovah, the nation as a whole did not want to be part of Gods purpose ,so it was opened up to the Gentile nations,

 

[may]

May, do you take all these things to be literal versions of the truth?

If a book told you that I was the ruler of heaven and had a few people copy down things they had read before to enforce their statement, would you believe that? My though is - nope.

I believe the bible is the inspired word of God

 

[MOZedek]

If Yeshua's God was the God of the Jews, then why aren't Christians Jewish?

This is a common misconception and I see you have asked about this so i will reply-
"Yeshua"'s "God" is the Prince (Angel ruling over) of the JEws but infact he is not really
Yeshua's Father- let the reader understand-

 

[Buttons*]

I would say that Christianity started as a breakoff Jewish sect, but over time it developed a long history of its own, and Judaism continued to change after Christianity split off. The worshipers kept separate enough that a change in Judaism didn't necessary affect Christian beliefs, and vice versa. By now, they're so different that it makes more sense to see them as independent religions.

Interesting. That makes sense culturally/ socially, but not exactly theogically. Nice angle though

 

[Buttons*]

As we all know ,at one time Gods people were only fleshly litral Jews, but when Gods son was sent to earth to represent his father Jehovah, the nation as a whole did not want to be part of Gods purpose ,so it was opened up to the Gentile nations,

If God made Jews, and those were the only people he made, how the hell did gentiles get there in the first place?

I wonder what the bible says about asians...

 

[Buttons*]

I believe the bible is the inspired word of God

infallible?

 

[Buttons*]

This is a common misconception and I see you have asked about this so i will reply-
"Yeshua"'s "God" is the Prince (Angel ruling over) of the JEws but infact he is not really
Yeshua's Father- let the reader understand-

wow, interesting theory. Lemme see if I get this straight:

So, Yeshua worships a different God than his Father? His creator was a Prince of the Jews?

Ya know what? I have no idea how to read this. I need better sentences. Sorry!

 

[may]

If God made Jews, and those were the only people he made, how the hell did gentiles get there in the first place?

I wonder what the bible says about asians...

"God is not partial, but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him."—ACTS 10:34, 35.

 

[joeboonda]

John 12

37But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:
38That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
39Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, 40He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

 

[joeboonda]

If Yeshua's God was the God of the Jews, then why aren't Christians Jewish?

The first Christians WERE Jews. God promised Abraham that through him all nations would be blessed. This is because the Saviour came through his blood-line. To the Jews first, then to the Gentiles, to all the world:

John 3:16

16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

If Yeshua's God was the God of the Jews, then why aren't Christians Jewish?

I think that's what Paul tried to do... he taught that Christians were the true Jews. However, Christianity is obviously not modern or ancient Judaism - the early Christian movement was an attempt to reform Judaism, and Judaism continued merrily on its way.

 

[Buttons*]

I think that's what Paul tried to do... he taught that Christians were the true Jews. However, Christianity is obviously not modern or ancient Judaism - the early Christian movement was an attempt to reform Judaism, and Judaism continued merrily on its way.

That's what I thought I had read somewhere. Plus, it makes more sense than anything else anyone has come up with. Thanks Daddy

 

[Buttons*]

He qualifies father (with (in heaven) meaning there is another Father elsewhere- the best way i can put it is if you understand the difference btween the Gospel and the Kingdom of Heaven you know the difference between the two fathers

This is something i've never heard before, would you mind if i made a new thread about it?

 

[Buttons*]

"God is not partial, but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him."—ACTS 10:34, 35.

and you dont think that by "every nation" they meant: in the Middle East?

 

[Buttons*]

John 12

37But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:
38That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
39Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, 40He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

This is beautiful... but explain how it makes a point for you