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My five year-old son is gay

dust1n

Zindīq
Storm has a very good point. Promoting tolerance towards homosexuality, transvestism and/or transexuality is definitely a worthy goal, and one that deserves a few courageous decisions and hardships along the way. Assuming that the school has problems with that, then it is indeed not much of a real school, as Dust1n implied.

On the other hand, regardless of the excellent merits of the cause itself, I also agree with Storm that it is a bit disturbing to see such a young child exposed to the lack of understanding of the world at large. Maybe we are talking about a very well-resolved and (most importantly) well-supported child, and in that case my fears are probably groundless. But we simply can't tell whether that is the case out of a photo and a news article. Children are often pushed towards participation in agendas they can't really understand or sustain. Hopefully this is not the case here, but homophoby being still so widespread as it is, I am fearful for the child for the time being. I have known child transexuals and let me say, we are bound to someday look back to these days and regret our odious intolerance.

If there was any other 'agenda' to push other than an increase in blog views, I might view the idea of an agenda as a viable option. Rather, I think some lady who writes on the internet vented about something that is more than likely what happened. I can only consider my own personal experience of women in America.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Some Halloween costumes are more appropriate than others. Some are less awkward than others.

Daphne is an appropriate costume, is that what you are saying? Again, I only saw parents getting awkward in the article... no mention of five-year-old-gay-bashing.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I don't think it's cool to let young boys dress like girls. When he is old enough to handle his own problems he can dress like whatever he wants.

But when he is young he can't never dress however he wants? Of course, I didn't see anywhere in the story that the kid had any 'problem' with anybody. Perhaps it is not cool to suggest to a parent what their kid should be allowed to want.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I saw it as her being pushy and utterly failing to prepare the boy for an inevitable reaction.

She failed to prepare the boy for the inevitable comments other mothers said to her? What preparation is needed for that?


Then she went and plastered the story all over the net with the headline "MY SON IS GAY" to show what a wonderful, tolerant, supportive mom she is. I am not impressed.

You are worried about people wanting to show off how tolerant they are their to child's wishes? From what I see, she didn't plaster the story all over the net, she plastered it on her blog.

I'm not impressed, neither. Calling out how ******** people can be is a rather easy thing to do with a blog.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Then why is it posted on the internet? Why is it titled my five year old son is gay? Why was it her point to say it was nobody's business how she raises her son yet post it on the Internet to make it everyones business? No agenda right?

Why do you post on RF? Duh-uh...
 

Renji

Well-Known Member
Found this while surfing the net and thought it worth sharing.

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So a few weeks before Halloween, Boo decides he wants to be Daphne from Scooby Doo, along with his best friend E.

Well, he didn't look like Daphne from Scooby Doo. He looks a little bit like Katy Perry.:D And I didn't really see any big deal if the kid wants to be dressed like that.. it's a kid thing......
 

dust1n

Zindīq
He changed his mind and she made him go in anyway. She didn't even try to prepare him for the consequences, in fact, she contradicted his wholly accurate instincts. Then, as already mentioned, she posted the story online with a totally inappropriate headline thinking it showed what a great mom she is.

And that's HER side of the story!

It's also possible she beat her real son to death, abducted another child, dressed him like Daphne and gave him candy to smile for the camera, and then wrote this story to get across home much of a tolerant mother she was.

She posted the story online with a headline that leads you to think it is inappropriate because you think she was thinking it showed what a great mom she is; Next.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Well, it wasn't JUST that. It was everything together. Tomato broke it down a couple of posts up.

The thing is, if you want to be supportive, you have to be supportive when the kid decides he DOESN'T want to do it, too.

And when did they come up in anything to do with story, besides you casually adding it as a factor?

Everything about this story screams "political football" to me. Like I said, there are certainly worse agendas, but the whole thing is just distasteful.

Oh, so because you inferred a bad sentiment from a mother announcing that her son "is gay" in a title because her she inferred from her peers that they were saying just that to her child, one is suppose to automatically place this into the catergory of 'political football' despite the mother having nothing do with or having any position in politics.
 
I still think her blog title was unnecessarily provocative and a potential source of embarrassment for the kid for years to come, whether he is gay or straight. His mother has gone Perez Hilton on him and exposed him to scrutiny, no kid needs that level of attention.

She either had less realistic expectations than her own 5 year old child, who she admits expressed concerns as the day approached, or she knew there would be a few raised eyebrows and that is exactly what she wanted.

I would like some more corroboration of the reaction of the other mothers, simply because I hate one sided stories.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I think that self-acceptance is excellent. I just think the phrase "be yourself" is stupid. If "myself" is someone who changes his behavior because others make me feel I should, then that characteristic is part of "myself". You can't be anything other than what you. No matter how hard you try. Even if you act like someone else. You're an actor. You're still you.

You do know that "be yourself" is basically a colloquialism for "do things that you feel on your own accord are correct" right? NO one uses "be yourself" as a literal sentiment suggesting that one is never not themselves. Why bring up such a useless red herring?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I can almost see this particular mom encouraging him to continue cross-dressing just to feed her desire for controversy and self-righteousness.

Of course you can. I can also see this mom killing cats at night by putting them in trash bags for fun. It's so fun inferring any particular thing you might want to hear.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
There's a part where she talks for quite a while, and the psychologist guy is visibly itching to say something the whole time. Interesting. When he finally did say something, it didn't seem like the thing he was itching to say.

Oh my god! What if CNN chopped up her interview to make her look a certain way. No wait, that isn't possible, because CNN doesn't have any political agendas, but this lady sure does for certain!
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I still think her blog title was unnecessarily provocative and a potential source of embarrassment for the kid for years to come, whether he is gay or straight.

Really? How many of his peers do you think made it this his mom's blog?

His mother has gone Perez Hilton on him and exposed him to scrutiny, no kid needs that level of attention.
What attention? Was this kid made a nationally celebrity? Without look at the article, can you recite to me his name?

She either had less realistic expectations than her own 5 year old child, who she admits expressed concerns as the day approached, or she knew there would be a few raised eyebrows and that is exactly what she wanted.
So she realized the ethical dilemma, made the right choice, and you accuse her of wanting to **** off the parents that her child goes to school with?

I would like some more corroboration of the reaction of the other mothers, simply because I hate one sided stories.
Of course, but it is enough to read her enough opinion to determine that she was actually carrying out a secret agenda, one of political nature, in which she would ultimately come out as a national celebrity and win a "Most Tolerant Mom Of The Year" Award.
 

Twig pentagram

High Priest
But when he is young he can't never dress however he wants? Of course, I didn't see anywhere in the story that the kid had any 'problem' with anybody. Perhaps it is not cool to suggest to a parent what their kid should be allowed to want.
I've never suggested anything to anyone. I just said what I think about the situation.
 
Really? How many of his peers do you think made it this his mom's blog?

The internet is eternal and this was on CNN>

What attention? Was this kid made a nationally celebrity? Without look at the article, can you recite to me his name?

This was on CNN, and even if it wasn't I know what this kid looks like and I'm pretty sure everyone in the town he lives in also knows what he looks like.

So she realized the ethical dilemma, made the right choice, and you accuse her of wanting to **** off the parents that her child goes to school with?

I haven't accused her of anything, but she was either naive or she is an attention whore.

Of course, but it is enough to read her enough opinion to determine that she was actually carrying out a secret agenda, one of political nature, in which she would ultimately come out as a national celebrity and win a "Most Tolerant Mom Of The Year" Award.

Good parents don't tolerate their children, they guide and protect and they love them unconditionally, that is the baseline, doing the right thing by your kids isn't an achievement, it is the bare minimum expected of you as a person.
 
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