NAACP issues travel advisory for Florida...

[Sand Dancer]

With so many successfully owned black business in the state of Florida, I find it comical an organization that is supposed to be looking out for the benefit of black people, are claiming it is dangerous for us there.

Florida Leads Nation In Number Of Minority-Owned Businesses

A report by the national law firm Evans Kirby found that Florida ranks third in Black and other minority-owned small businesses.

patch.com

If Florida ranks third behind CA and TX, it doesn't lead it, does it? Of course, the states with higher populations, as well as higher populations of minorities, have more businesses.

 

[Kfox]

If Florida ranks third behind CA and TX, it doesn't lead it, does it? Of course, the states with higher populations, as well as higher populations of minorities, have more businesses.

I didn't say it leads, the headline said that but I think they were referring to per capita. I only said there were a lot of successfully owned black business in the state.

 

[Sand Dancer]

I didn't say it leads, the headline said that but I think they were referring to per capita. I only said there were a lot of successfully owned black business in the state.

That article title says it leads. Just clarifying. I think that's great though.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I wasn't thinking of that one.

Of course not, but that's nevertheless some of those discussion outside of the classroom. So is telling white people to stay out of the black part of town in small town, rural Indiane because you'll be subject to a battery of violent crime, and to be careful in Detroit because they "have black people."
This is why we just can't depend on or rely on conversations outside of the class. According to some even then we still just shouldn't be talking about race.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I didn't say it leads, the headline said that but I think they were referring to per capita. I only said there were a lot of successfully owned black business in the state.

There were many successful black business owners and white collar professions in Tulsa until a bunch of racists killed them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

When I spoke of years ago, I was talking about what was going on in the 1940's and 50's; not slavery.

America had slavery then and still does today.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course not, but that's nevertheless some of those discussion outside of the classroom. So is telling white people to stay out of the black part of town in small town, rural Indiane because you'll be subject to a battery of violent crime, and to be careful in Detroit because they "have black people."
This is why we just can't depend on or rely on conversations outside of the class. According to some even then we still just shouldn't be talking about race.

You might not approve of all discussions
outside of public school classrooms, but
I favor such liberty.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You might not approve of all discussions
outside of public school classrooms, but
I favor such liberty.

I'm not saying ban those discussions, I'm saying they need challenged. As long as ideas like racial superiority/inferiority and concepts like race traitor exists we must teach a better way. And that doesn't begin at home because many homes do not want to hear or discuss a better way.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm not saying ban those discussions, I'm saying they need challenged. As long as ideas like racial superiority/inferiority and concepts like race traitor exists we must teach a better way. And that doesn't begin at home because many homes do not want to hear or discuss a better way.

OK.

 

[Kfox]

There were many successful black business owners and white collar professions in Tulsa until a bunch of racists killed them.

I'm talking about today; not a hundred years ago.

America had slavery then and still does today.

No. In the 40's and 50's America did not have slaves doing the work illegal immigrants are doing now, and we don't have it today.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I'm talking about today; not a hundred years ago.

No. In the 40's and 50's America did not have slaves doing the work illegal immigrants are doing now, and we don't have it today.

You would have slaves, based on modern slavery definitions. Australia certainly does. These aren't chattel slaves legally owned by landowners, etc.
Rather they are working under debt bondage, sex trafficking, forced marriage, etc.
I'm not suggesting this is 'the same', merely that when people are talking about First World slavery in modern terms, it's a broader definition than chattel slavery.

In Australia, there are reporting requirements on businesses around this issue, depending on class, etc.

Federal Register of Legislation - Modern Slavery Act 2018

www.legislation.gov.au

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You would have slaves, based on modern slavery definitions. Australia certainly does. These aren't chattel slaves legally owned by landowners, etc.
Rather they are working under debt bondage, sex trafficking, forced marriage, etc.
I'm not suggesting this is 'the same', merely that when people are talking about First World slavery in modern terms, it's a broader definition that chattel slavery.

In Australia, there are reporting requirements on businesses around this issue, depending on class, etc.

Federal Register of Legislation - Modern Slavery Act 2018

www.legislation.gov.au

In America the 13th Amendment bans slavery unless it's a legal punishment. So not only does America have a very high incarceration rate many inmates are sentenced to forced slave labor or are paid sweatshop wages.

 

[Revoltingest]

In America the 13th Amendment bans slavery unless it's a legal punishment. So not only does America have a very high incarceration rate many inmates are sentenced to forced slave labor or are paid sweatshop wages.

Calling punishment for a crime "slavery" in the
same context as legal private ownership of another
person is overly broad use of the term. Even worse
is fools using "wage slavery" to decry being required
to work to get an employer to pay them money.

 

[Kfox]

You would have slaves, based on modern slavery definitions. Australia certainly does. These aren't chattel slaves legally owned by landowners, etc.
Rather they are working under debt bondage, sex trafficking, forced marriage, etc.
I'm not suggesting this is 'the same', merely that when people are talking about First World slavery in modern terms, it's a broader definition that chattel slavery.

In Australia, there are reporting requirements on businesses around this issue, depending on class, etc.

Federal Register of Legislation - Modern Slavery Act 2018

www.legislation.gov.au

Slavery is when a person is owned by another.

Slavery | Definition, History, & Facts

Slavery is the condition in which one human being is owned by another. Under slavery, an enslaved person is considered by law as property, or chattel, and is deprived of most of the rights ordinarily held by free persons. Learn more about the history, legality, and sociology of slavery in this...

www.britannica.com

Though there are many places in the world where this may be legal, in the United States it is not.

 

[Kfox]

In America the 13th Amendment bans slavery unless it's a legal punishment. So not only does America have a very high incarceration rate many inmates are sentenced to forced slave labor or are paid sweatshop wages.

Name a Prison system in the United States where prison inmates are actually forced to work against their will? And what will happen to them if they refuse?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Slavery is when a person is owned by another.

Slavery | Definition, History, & Facts

Slavery is the condition in which one human being is owned by another. Under slavery, an enslaved person is considered by law as property, or chattel, and is deprived of most of the rights ordinarily held by free persons. Learn more about the history, legality, and sociology of slavery in this...

www.britannica.com

Though there are many places in the world where this may be legal, in the United States it is not.

Your link states this:
"... There is no consensus on what a slave was or on how the institution of slavery should be defined. ..."
So you are proven wrong by your own link.

 

[Kfox]

Your link states this:
"... There is no consensus on what a slave was or on how the institution of slavery should be defined. ..."
So you are proven wrong by your own link.

Just because everybody does not agree on the definition does not mean there is no definition. Obviously 100% consensus is not required, otherwise the term slavery becomes meaningless.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Just because everybody does not agree on the definition does not mean there is no definition. Obviously 100% consensus is not required, otherwise the term slavery becomes meaningless.

Or the understand becomes subjective for different definitions.
A different definition is not meaningless as such, it is a different meaning.

 

[Kfox]

Or the understand becomes subjective for different definitions.
A different definition is not meaningless as such, it is a different meaning.

Give an example of how everybody will have their own definition of a word, yet that word remains meaningful.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Give an example of how everybody will have their own definition of a word, yet that word remains meaningful.

Google what is religion and look at the different definitions and e.g. compare a simple dictionary one with say this one:

Religion | Definition, Types, Beliefs, Symbols, Examples, Importance, & Facts | Britannica

Religion, human beings’ relation to that which they regard as holy, sacred, absolute, spiritual, divine, or worthy of especial reverence. Worship, moral conduct, right belief, and participation in religious institutions are among the constituent elements of the religious life.

www.britannica.com

I mean I can even go deep and find a philosophy of religion definition that is meaningless to you and meaningful to me.
It is not that everybody as individuals have different definitions. It is that definitions are in some cases a result of limited cognitive, cultural and moral relativism.
You are on a forum for which all the members are not from your culture and even you are not the culture for the USA. You as I are in effect different results of nature and nurture with some overlap, but only some.