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NAACP issues travel advisory for Florida...

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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I don't know much about him either, but I know enough to know he may not really be a suitable role model for anyone, and that's the point. He's damaged goods and making others more broken than him. It's good story to see such stories where evil is thoroughly punished, but in the real world it has entirely necessary to make laws to prevent law enforcement from doing what he does.
Captain America is a far better role model for them and his shield definitely better than Punisher's skull. Steve even has a legit mid-20 century America thing going on.
Oh I agree.
I would wager that Marvel agrees too.
And DC lol
Given there quite a few issues where the Punisher quite literally goes up to a bunch of police who have painted his logo onto their equipment and loudly berates them for stopping to his level. Even smashing up their equipment.
He basically begs them to be a positive force instead.

It’s indeed fun to read about justice being served through knuckle sandwiches.
But Marvel and indeed DC also routinely criticise idolising this behaviour as well. At least in their content aimed for older audiences
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
But Marvel and indeed DC also routinely criticise this idolisation. At least in their content aimed for older audiences
Yeah. It's probably unfortunate they are stereotyped as juvenile because at this point people being exposed to the ideas amd topics in many of those comics just can't d9 amy harm if people read them. Honestly, if these came out today the Right would probably push very hard to cancel them. They are Left, they are Woke amd diverse before it was mainstream and they aren't always flattering in their portrayals of so-called heroes. Amd to top it off their Civil War included the issue of social responsibility.
Like the 90s XMen having strong allusions and parallels to HIV/AIDs. The Looney Toon Right would would throw everything they have at it to cancel it.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Yeah. It's probably unfortunate they are stereotyped as juvenile because at this point people being exposed to the ideas amd topics in many of those comics just can't d9 amy harm if people read them. Honestly, if these came out today the Right would probably push very hard to cancel them. They are Left, they are Woke amd diverse before it was mainstream and they aren't always flattering in their portrayals of so-called heroes. Amd to top it off their Civil War included the issue of social responsibility.
Like the 90s XMen having strong allusions and parallels to HIV/AIDs. The Looney Toon Right would would throw everything they have at it to cancel it.
Yes! Exactly!!!

All these accusations of Marvel and DC “going woke.”
Like they’ve always been woke!
Marvel literally had a section called Stan’s Soapbox, if I recall. How much more in your face do you want? Lol
And like you said X-Men’s allusions to HIV/AIDS. Even the movies acknowledged that!

All these supposed “woke characters” actually have long reaching backstories in the comics themselves.
Hell Batwoman goes back to at least the Golden Age. Technically.
That was blasted as woke nonsense when the show premiered lol.

I can’t help but think if the Justice League and Justice League Ultimate series (from the early to mid 2000s) were released today they’d be called “woke.”
Because they used characters that weren’t always the most mainstream. Simply because that’s how these kind of properties always work. The creative team have their own favourites, which might not always be household names. But are able to convince the showrunner of their story potential.
Like my first introduction to Green Lantern actually was John Stewart thanks to those shows.
Today the extended cast in the Ultimate series would be accused of pandering to the Left.
Like omg. Make it stop lol
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member



The phrase "be careful what you wish for" might be appropriate.
These just look like new and innovative ways of enforcing laws already in place. If you don't want the laws enforced, get rid of the law!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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All these accusations of Marvel and DC “going woke.”
Like they’ve always been woke!
Marvel literally had a section called Stan’s Soapbox, if I recall. How much more in your face do you want? Lol
And like you said X-Men’s allusions to HIV/AIDS. Even the movies acknowledged that!
And let's not forget the irony of Max Eisenhardt (a Jew)
being in a Nazi concentration camp. Later he became
Magneto, & sought to have mutants (the new master
race) take over.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
These just look like new and innovative ways of enforcing laws already in place. If you don't want the laws enforced, get rid of the law!
I don't disagree. But you have to acknowledge that there is a serious problem.

Your country has never enforced these laws in a consistent and fair way. Your have allowed your economy to become dependent on illegal immigration. Take that away and your economy will collapse.

You need these people. If you want to stop illegal immigration you need to greatly increase legal immigration. It is 2023, you can do that.
 

Stevicus

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“The state of Florida devalues and marginalizes the contributions of, and the challenges faced by Socialists and others who work in the Biden Administration,” Scott, who is also the state’s former governor, said in a press release.

“Let me be clear – any attempts to spread the oppression and poverty that Socialism always brings will be rebuffed by the people of Florida,” he added. “Travelers should be aware that attempts to spread Socialism in north Florida will fail and be met with laughter and mockery.”

Scott’s statement is a mocking response to recent travel issued by social justice groups declaring Florida an unsafe state for certain minority groups.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Your country has never enforced these laws in a consistent and fair way. Your have allowed your economy to become dependent on illegal immigration. Take that away and your economy will collapse.
Nah. It should read....
Take that away, & the economy will change.
Illegal immigration isn't at all necessary.
Sure, it has some benefits, but it's not all unicorns & rainbows.
Even migrant farm workers are becoming spendier, so automation
is advancing. And it could advance faster if needed.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
You're wrong.
Take that away, & the economy will change.
Illegal immigration isn't at all necessary.
Sure, it has some benefits, but it's not all unicorns & rainbows.
Even migrant farm workers are becoming spendier, so automation
is advancing. And it could advance faster if needed.
Yes, there are other things you can do. But you need to do them first, not after. If you take away what is supporting your economy before you have something else in place, your economy collapses.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
NAACP board of directors chairman Leon W. Russell hates Florida so much that he lives here.
Wants to keep Florida all to himself I suppose.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes, there are other things you can do. But you need to do them first, not after. If you take away what is supporting your economy before you have something else in place, your economy collapses.
The other things are already progressing.
Think of readily available migrant/immigrant labor
as an inhibiting factor. Do you know any farmers?
These are issues already being addressed, even at
the individual level, ie, building machinery to reduce
labor requirements. An almond farmer I know
completely eliminated hired help.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
And let's not forget the irony of Max Eisenhardt (a Jew)
being in a Nazi concentration camp. Later he became
Magneto, & sought to have mutants (the new master
race) take over.
That, I think, has caused many a video or paper essay from Marvel nerds trying to analyse that in depth lol
 

Shaul

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Premium Member
The NAACP lost any credibility as a champion for civil rights long ago. These days it is just another shill front for the Democrat party in the greater "disunity industrial complex". It has not credibility.

But on the irony front, the NAACP hasn't issued any travel advisory about Blacks going to Chicago where the Black homicide rates remain tragically high.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
It’s r

Is this funny? Is it sad? Is it both? Perhaps the French word "triste" might be better?

The NAACP has issued a travel advisory for Florida, stating that the state is "openly hostile to African Americans, people of color and LGBTQ+ individuals."

But this is the naked truth -- Ron DeSantis is invoking a very real war on a multiplicity of the cultures and communities that make up the US (and his state) for the sole purpose of establishing himself as the carrier of the Republican Flag in the 2024 election.

All the gains, all that we've learned about each other, all the ways in which we have tried to come together and appreciate one another -- all of it -- is to be thrown under the bus so that he can be MR. BIG in the US instead of the wispy-haired pumpkin.

Who are you, America? I mean it -- who are you?
It is ridiculous. Colored people are not in danger in Florida. What is the evidence for that?
 
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