new age beliefs thats wrong

[ChristineM]

The 'Earth hangs upon nothing' to me is a scientific point that is in harmony with science and Bible - Job 26:7 B
Archaeological artifact digs harmonize with the Bible
I had a school teacher who did Not believe Pilate existed (Bible not accurate) so when the discovery was announced at class she was surprised
By not taking this further seems to indicate I am not welcome to my beliefs/thinking
Since I believe our future is at stake then what we add to our fund of knowledges increases our understanding

Sure the bible is built around places, events and people that existed, all good novels use this trick to give credibility. It does not by any means guarantee that the main thread of the story is truthful.

As i said, you are welcome to your opinion, just as i hope you believe that i am welcome to mine.

Yes our future is at stake, pushing bronze age knowledge as the be all and end all of modern life is really a frightening scenario to me.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Yet all versions have differences, and are interpreted differently. Hence there are now close on 50,000 versions of Christianity each interpreting the version of the bible they prefer in the way that they want.

Bingo ! Versions can be checked with ancient manuscripts
Yes, there are those who are 'wolves in sheep's clothing' - Acts 20:29-30 - prefer in the way that they want
And people who just want to have their ' ears tickled ' - 2nd Timothy 4:3
Or, as Jesus forewarned us that MANY would come in his name but prove false - Matt. 7:21-23

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes our future is at stake, pushing bronze age knowledge as the be all and end all of modern life is really a frightening scenario to me.

You can say THAT again! I'd be worried if I did not believe that God had another plan for this age.

 

[ChristineM]

Bingo ! Versions can be checked with ancient manuscripts
Yes, there are those who are 'wolves in sheep's clothing' - - prefer in the way that they want
And people who just want to have their ' ears tickled ' - 2nd Timothy 4:3
Or, as Jesus forewarned us that MANY would come in his name but prove false - Matt. 7:21-23

Of course they can be checked but by and large they aren't.

Here is a comparison between the kjv and niv.
Thats just 2 bibles, note the differences.

NIV versus KJV Bible

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Sure the bible is built around places, events and people that existed, all good novels use this trick to give credibility. It does not by any means guarantee that the main thread of the story is truthful.
As i said, you are welcome to your opinion, just as i hope you believe that i am welcome to mine.
Yes our future is at stake, pushing bronze age knowledge as the be all and end all of modern life is really a frightening scenario to me.

To me the main thread of the story is about God's kingdom as Jesus' main theme is God's kingdom - Luke 4:43
God's kingdom being a read government but operates from Heaven - Daniel 2:44
We are Not instructed to push a frightening scenario, but push the 'good news' (Not the bad news) about God's kingdom
Instructed to ask for God's heavenly kingdom to come ( thy kingdom come...... )
Nothing frightening about heavenly conditions: No war, No crime, No pollution, No sickness and No death in Heaven
So, what is being pushed, so to speak, is that a beautiful paradisical Earth is coming as described at Isaiah 35th chapter
Only those who bring ruin to Earth will be brought to ruin -> Revelation 11:18 B

 

[ChristineM]

Nothing frightening about heavenly conditions: No war, No crime, No pollution, No sickness and No death in Heaven

Very frightening to me and others, an eternity locked in with some of the most religious fanatics ever to have lived. Not at all good news, No thanks, give me the 1st law of thermodynamics any time

So, what is being pushed, so to speak

For one, see above

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You can say THAT again! I'd be worried if I did not believe that God had another plan for this age.

Yup ! God's purpose for this coming age: A beautiful paradisical Earth as described in Isaiah 35th chapter
With Jesus in charge of God's kingdom as mentioned at 1st Corinthians 15:24-26
Not for the violent but humble righteous people to inherit the Earth - Matt. 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11; 22:26; Ezekiel 34:25

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Very frightening to me and others, an eternity locked in with some of the most religious fanatics ever to have lived. Not at all good news, No thanks, give me the 1st law of thermodynamics any time.................

Do the 'healthy people' described in Isaiah's 35th chapter sound like religious fanatics __________
I can say that God's internal energy can Not be created but that His thermodynamic energy be transferred - Psalm 104:30
So, to me it is No wonder the universe keeps expanding - Jeremiah 10:12

 

[ChristineM]

Do the 'healthy people' described in Isaiah's 35th chapter sound like religious fanatics __________
I can say that God's internal energy can Not be created but that His thermodynamic energy be transferred - Psalm 104:30
So, to me it is No wonder the universe keeps expanding - Jeremiah 10:12

Are you saying that religious fanatics don't exist?

I can say pigs might fly, it's just as meaningful

And here is an example future at stake. Forget learning, forget progress, just say god did it so we can all go home and stagnate.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yup ! God's purpose for this coming age: A beautiful paradisical Earth as described in Isaiah 35th chapter

We all interpret the Bible differently. As I have told you before, I do not believe that Isaiah 35 is not about a coming beautiful paradisaical world.
I believe It is a prophecy for what we will see after the return of Christ.

Isaiah prophesied that the Plain of Sharon and the holy mountain, Carmel, would both be centers for the light and presence of the ‘Glory of the Lord’ in the last days. All these prophecies were fulfilled after Christ returned with a new name which was Baha'u'llah.

Isaiah 35 King James Version (KJV)

35 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. 2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the Lord, and the excellency of our God.

Above Haifa, Israel, stands Mt. Carmel, proclaiming the Glory of the Lord has come.

With Jesus in charge of God's kingdom as mentioned at 1st Corinthians 15:24-26

I do not believe that Jesus will be in charge of God's kingdom on earth. Jesus rules in Heaven, not on Earth.
I believe that God's Kingdom will be established by humans with God's assistance.

“Beseech ye the one true God to grant that all men may be graciously assisted to fulfil that which is acceptable in Our sight. Soon will the present-day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead. Verily, thy Lord speaketh the truth, and is the Knower of things unseen.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 7

Baha'is believe that the New Earth in Revelation is a new world order in which we will see the spiritualization of the peoples of the world and man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections: New Race of Men

The “World Order” that Baha’is envision pertains to a number of subjects: politics and governance, economics, society, and religion, as is covered briefly in this blog: Toward a New World Order?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Of course they can be checked but by and large they aren't.
Here is a comparison between the kjv and niv.
Thats just 2 bibles, note the differences.
NIV versus KJV Bible

My old computer would Not open up the verses. Please post a one-at-a-time verse you have in mind
Sometimes old archaic KJV words are Not used in modern English - Isaiah 58:8 B for example

Yes, agree that by and large aren't checked. That does Not make the teachings of Jesus as wrong but the Not checkers as wrong

 

[ChristineM]

a beautiful paradisical Earth is coming

Will you be disappointed if it doesn't come during your lifetime?

 

[ChristineM]

My old computer would Not open up the verses. Please post a one-at-a-time verse you have in mind
Sometimes old archaic KJV words are Not used in modern English - Isaiah 58:8 B for example

Yes, agree that by and large aren't checked. That does Not make the teachings of Jesus as wrong but the Not checkers as wrong

Take Acts 24:7 and Acts 28:29 as examples, in both cases the NIV considers the scriptures not worth printing.

There are several more verses missing from the NIV

Also many key points have been omitted leaving only partial verses

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Are you saying that religious fanatics don't exist?
I can say pigs might fly, it's just as meaningful
And here is an example future at stake. Forget learning, forget progress, just say god did it so we can all go home and stagnate.

I'm saying those who bring ruin (moral or literal) to Earth will come to their end - Rev. 11:18 B; Psalm 104:35
Adam and Eve were Not to forget learning (took Adam a while to observe the animals before giving them names)
They were Not to forget progress but to expand Eden until beautiful edenic conditions covered the whole Earth
We can see that with man seemingly forgetting about learning, forgetting progress but wanting 'bread and a circus'
In other words, wanting food and entertainment over taking care of Earth as my Nature Conservancy bag remind me
Yes, if there would Not be divine involvement into mankind's affairs there would be forget learning, progress, etc.
Thankfully there will be meaningful work as mentioned at Isaiah 65:21-25 including building your own homes
( wonder why geodesic dome homes aren't build in heavy storm damaged areas ? )

 

[ChristineM]

I'm saying those who bring ruin (moral or literal) to Earth will come to their end - Rev. 11:18 B; Psalm 104:35
Adam and Eve were Not to forget learning (took Adam a while to observe the animals before giving them names)
They were Not to forget progress but to expand Eden until beautiful edenic conditions covered the whole Earth
We can see that with man seemingly forgetting about learning, forgetting progress but wanting 'bread and a circus'
In other words, wanting food and entertainment over taking care of Earth as my Nature Conservancy bag remind me
Yes, if there would Not be divine involvement into mankind's affairs there would be forget learning, progress, etc.
Thankfully there will be meaningful work as mentioned at Isaiah 65:21-25 including building your own homes
( wonder why geodesic dome homes aren't build in heavy storm damaged areas ? )

Are you able to think for yourself and present your own ideas rather than interpreting odd verses from the bible?

I would like to have a conversation, not have bits if bible verse and perception of those verses.

But not tonight, goodnight

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Take Acts 24:7 and Acts 28:29 as examples, in both cases the NIV considers the scriptures not worth printing.
There are several more verses missing from the NIV
Also many key points have been omitted leaving only partial verses

Because Bible translations were already accepted earlier, then the 'gaps' in the verse numbering which is creating gaps such as besides Acts 24:7; 28:29 I find there is Acts 8:37; Acts 15:34; Romans 16:24; Matthew 17:21; 18:11; 23:14; Mark 7:16; 9:44,46; 11:26; 15:28; Luke 17:36; 23:17 and John 5:4 ( there should be footnote indications of such )
None of which changes the theme of the Bible nor the theme of Jesus' teachings

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Are you able to think for yourself and present your own ideas rather than interpreting odd verses from the bible?
I would like to have a conversation, not have bits if bible verse and perception of those verses.
But not tonight, goodnight

.... and hope you had a good night and the new day dawns brightly for you
Does an English teacher give his own ideas or follow English grammar rules, etc.
Does a Math teacher give his own ideas.......
Does a Science teacher teach his own ideas, or NASA
The Bible has a frame work which is God's Kingdom and within that frame Jesus carries out that same kingdom theme
Through corresponding or parallel cross-reference verses by subject or topic we can fill in the Bible's framework or theme
From Paradise aka Eden lost to Paradise regained, the meek inheriting a beautiful paradisical Earth as Eden was

 

[Spice]

.... and hope you had a good night and the new day dawns brightly for you
Does an English teacher give his own ideas or follow English grammar rules, etc.
Does a Math teacher give his own ideas.......
Does a Science teacher teach his own ideas, or NASA
The Bible has a frame work which is God's Kingdom and within that frame Jesus carries out that same kingdom theme
Through corresponding or parallel cross-reference verses by subject or topic we can fill in the Bible's framework or theme
From Paradise aka Eden lost to Paradise regained, the meek inheriting a beautiful paradisical Earth as Eden was

If truly good teachers, they use their particular fields of study to open up the minds of their students. I can assure you diagramming a sentence changes method nearly each generation. Math and science continues to grow and expand with humans growth "to think."

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Will you be disappointed if it doesn't come during your lifetime?

The old adage is that it is darkest before the dawn
Thus, things will get worse before they get better
When men are saying, " Peace and Security...." past history shows man has dominated man to man's hurt, man's injury
In a way it would be disappointing Not to see Matthew 25:31-34 in my lifetime, but because of the Resurrection Hope it will be like going to bed with aches and pains but waking up feeling better than ever

 

[URAVIP2ME]

If truly good teachers, they use their particular fields of study to open up the minds of their students. I can assure you diagramming a sentence changes method nearly each generation. Math and science continues to grow and expand with humans growth "to think."

.... and so does Bible knowledge continue to grow an expand in one's fund of knowledge - Proverbs 4:18
Science thinks: Should we do it ? Atomic bomb or atomic energy ? Science gives us the explanatory world view
The Bible gives us the ethical biblical view
It's propaganda that teaches us what to think
Education teaches ( or should teach ) how to think
The Bible educates us in the way to serve God (morality to be governed by)
- Golden Rule and John 13:34-35 Jesus' New Commandment
After all, Science is Not the teacher or morality
Whether it's bad science, bad business, or bad religion does Not mean the Bible itself is wrong